There was no one in support of the tax on the 18th either (at least not that I saw). Sadly though, there was a small turn out on the 18th too!
UPDATE 6/25/14! NJ Gov. Chris Christie proposes taxing e-cigs at rate equal to $2.70/pack cigarette tax + other issues
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Saw this in Rogers round up, thought it is relevant to the thread! NJ Assembly budget chairman says no to tax on electronic cigarettes | NJ.com
Nice find,and then a comment that links to a CDC report on amounts of nicotine added to beef by an employee of a supermarket. People ingested the beef and got sick, but none died even though it was a very high amount of nicotine. Sorry if this is off topic but I think it's important to the entire vision of our story, the ANTZ just go round and round with everything.
Nicotine Poisoning After Ingestion of Contaminated Ground Beef --- Michigan, 2003
I should imagine it is because J and J and other Pharma companies have their offices in Ne Jersey. Just a quick trip to the N.J Capitol to lobby Christie and the Legislators in N,J.
I wouldn't doubt all those drug companies had a lot of influence on the indoor ban NJ passed very quickly a couple years ago. There are a ton of Pharma companies there.
At least some good news for a change. Not completely dead, but at least the budget chairman recognized the testimony given and indicated it swayed some opinion on the matter in both parties. I can't say this ever seems to happen in California or Los Angeles, where our "progressive, enlightened representatives" agenda trumps any opinion or desires of the unwashed masses, who don't know any better.
Yes, this certainly ties into the obviously biased (and lame) NY Times article from yesterday, which obviously was on the mind of some of the folks who commented.
It certainly does help that the Committee Chair (Schaer) is apparently a dual user vaper/smoker.You NJ guy totally lucked out on that one. Do keep an eye on the Senate bill (S1867), as it's still very much a threat.
Note that the current version of S1867 apparently defines everything as a "tobacco product"
Note that the current version of S1867 apparently defines everything as a "tobacco product"
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The problem with NJ (I live in this crap state) they will table a law and then when no one is looking put it as a rider on another bill. If they want the law passed it will get passed no matter what the people of the state want or say. Trust me on this! Living here most of my live this is a lesson I have learned. Hell for almost 30 years now they say they are working on reducing taxes.. go figure after 30 years nothing has happened!
That's not true, taxes in NJ are always increasing. NJ had the distinction of being the first state to put e cigs in the same category as smoking via dear old departed Frank. I can see them sneaking the e cig tax under your noses.
Doesnt help when nobody shows up to fight! Thank goodness for folks like Greg who seems to be a one man army. I believe Bill G showed up as well. On the 18th (The day I was there), very very little representation from B&M's. we aren't putting up that much of a fight. We ARE lucky the Chairperson is a vaper, though, he is only one person, the Senate has proposed their own bill.
2coils, I don't understand it either particularly from the vendors. Every one of them should have been present, it is their livelihood that is threatened.
Strange, I live in Washington state, a ton of people showed up to fight our bill, in fact so many people showed up they had to open a second overflow room.
Bill, Please call me. You have my phone numbers. 704-9995-1115.
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The Star Ledger (NJ's biggest newspaper) has published an editorial opposing Gov. Christie's proposal to tax e-cigs
NJ should not impose a 'sin tax' on e-cigarettes: Editorial | NJ.com
NJ should not impose a 'sin tax' on e-cigarettes: Editorial | NJ.com
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The Asbury Park Press editorial criticizes, but doesn't slam, Christie's e-cig tax proposal, but also makes many false claims about e-cigs
http://www.app.com/article/20140407/NJOPINION01/304070018/EDITORIAL-Taxes-e-cigarettes-merit-
http://www.app.com/article/20140407/NJOPINION01/304070018/EDITORIAL-Taxes-e-cigarettes-merit-
There's another 'false claim' - the tax proposals were part of the legislature's bills going back before this current one, which is just an update.
http://www.e-cigarette-forum.com/fo...l-2-70-pack-cigarette-tax-5.html#post12510672
The media saying it is 'Christie's proposal' is a lie. He didn't 'propose' it. Although he supports it.
http://www.e-cigarette-forum.com/fo...l-2-70-pack-cigarette-tax-5.html#post12510672
The media saying it is 'Christie's proposal' is a lie. He didn't 'propose' it. Although he supports it.
Answer to that would be people sneaking a legal product in the country and selling juice components around the taxation. ecig's can easily be duplicated and replicated so it will never fly. It is like people having the ability to make their own cigarettes.
Some more discussion on the NJ tax. I would like to address this Mary E. O’Dowd somehow. I just have not figured out how yet. She believes all of the typical ANTZ nonsense. I am so angered and tired of folks spewing crap out of their mouths without ANY evidence to back themselves up. I am really really angry.
www. njspotlight.
com/stories/14/04/14/legislators-question-benefits-of-raising-e-cigarette-tax/
Link broken as much junk and untruths are spread throughout the article thanks to the Health Commissioner. Good thing there is some opposition to this tax.
www. njspotlight.
com/stories/14/04/14/legislators-question-benefits-of-raising-e-cigarette-tax/
Link broken as much junk and untruths are spread throughout the article thanks to the Health Commissioner. Good thing there is some opposition to this tax.
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The site accepts comments, and I did....the current comments are all very much against the Health Commissioner's rantings...
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