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URGENT - NYS Outright Sales Ban On the AGENDA Again

Discussion in 'Law and the E-Cigarette' started by yvilla, Jan 22, 2011.

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  1. yvilla

    yvilla Ultra Member Verified Member ECF Veteran

    Nov 18, 2008
    Rochester, NY
    The New York State Assembly Health Committee has A01468 on its meeting agenda for this coming Tuesday, 1/25, at 12 noon. If the bill is favorably reported out of committee, it will then go to the full Assembly for a vote - where the identical bill passed unanimously last year! It did not become law only because the Senate version never got out of the Senate Health Committee last year.

    Here is the bill memo and text: Bills

    It is Section 2 (starting at line 37) that purports to ban all sales (unless and until approved by the FDA as a cessation product), while Section 1 only bans sales to minors, etc.

    While we probably have a better chance of stopping this in the NYS Senate, we still need to try and stop it at the Assembly level.

    And while I would normally be asking for snail mail, because that would seem to be more effective than emails, due to the shortness of notice for Tuesday, I am begging people to send either emails or better yet faxes, and even more importantly, to please find some time on Monday and/or Tuesday morning to make phone calls, if not to all of the committee members, then at least to the Chair and one or two others.

    New addition: CASAA now has a letter up on our site, that everyone is invited to use as is, or modified as you wish. It can be faxed, and it can be emailed. Please find the link to download it here:

    Here is the full list of Assembly Health Committee members, and at the bottom of it you will find both semicolon and comma delimited email lists for ease of use:

    Assembly Health Committee

    Chair: Richard N. Gottfried D (a cosponsor)
    Albany Office
    LOB 822
    Albany, NY 12248
    Fax: 518-455-5939

    Jonathan L. Bing D
    Albany Office
    LOB 744
    Albany, NY 12248

    f 518- 455-4629

    Kevin A. Cahill D
    Albany Office
    LOB 713
    Albany, NY 12248

    f 518- 455-5576

    Robert Castelli R
    Albany Office
    LOB 820
    Albany, NY 12248
    f 518-455-5041

    James D. Conte R
    Albany Office
    LOB 446
    Albany, NY 12248

    f 518- 455-5553

    Steven Cymbrowitz D (a cosponsor)
    Albany Office
    LOB 538
    Albany, NY 12248
    f 518- 455-5738

    Jeffrey Dinowitz D
    Albany Office
    LOB 824
    Albany, NY 12248
    f 518 455-4437

    Sandy Galef D (a cosponsor)
    Albany Office
    LOB 641
    Albany, NY 12248
    f 518-455-5728

    Aileen Gunther D
    Albany Office
    LOB 435
    Albany, NY 12248
    f 518-455-5239

    Andrew Hevesi D
    Albany Office
    LOB 833
    Albany, NY 12248
    f 518- 455-5173

    Rhoda Jacobs D
    Albany Office
    LOB 736
    Albany, NY 12248
    f 518- 455-3881

    Charles D. Lavine D
    Albany Office
    LOB 441
    Albany, NY 12248
    Fax: 518-455-5467

    William B. Magnarelli D
    Albany Office
    LOB 841
    Albany, NY 12248
    f 518- 455-5498

    Nettie Mayersohn D
    Albany Office
    LOB 746
    Albany, NY 12248
    f 518- 455-5408

    David G. McDonough R
    Albany Office
    LOB 443
    Albany, NY 12248
    FAX 518-455-5559

    Joel M. Miller R
    Albany Office
    LOB 437
    Albany, NY 12248
    f 518- 455-5729

    Amy Paulin D
    Albany Office
    LOB 627
    Albany, NY 12248
    f 518- 455-5409

    Crystal D. Peoples-Stokes D
    Albany Office
    LOB 619
    Albany, NY 12248
    fax 518- 455-5471

    Naomi Rivera D
    Albany Office
    LOB 652
    Albany, NY 12248
    f 518- 455-5596

    Linda B. Rosenthal D (primary bill sponsor)
    Albany Office
    821 LOB
    Albany, NY 12248
    fax (518) 455-5015

    Robin Schimminger D
    Albany Office
    LOB 847
    Albany, NY 12248
    fax (518) 455-4724

    Lou Tobacco R (a cosponsor)
    Albany Office
    Room 722
    Legislative Office Bldg.
    Albany, NY 12248
    fax (518) 455-4501

    Darryl C. Towns D
    Albany Office
    LOB 424
    ALBANY, NY 12248
    fax (518) 455-5591

    Semicolon delimited email list:;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;

    Comma delimited email list,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,

    CRITICAL Update

    We discovered when calling today that the list of Health Committee members on the Assembly website has NOT been updated since the recent elections. There are four additional members to contact (and Castelli, at least, is no longer on the committee). The four new members to contact are:

    Christopher S. Friend
    Albany Office
    Room 720
    Legislative Office Bldg.
    Albany, NY 12248
    fax 607 348 1500 begin_of_the_skype_highlighting (office says no Albany fax, they get from local office via email)

    Andy Goodell
    Albany Office
    LOB 547
    Albany, NY 12248
    fax 518 455 4328

    Edward P. Ra
    Albany Office
    LOB 544
    Albany, NY 12248
    fax 518 455 4643

    Andrew P. Raia
    Albany Office
    LOB 629
    Albany, NY 12248
    fax 518 455 5804
  2. yvilla

    yvilla Ultra Member Verified Member ECF Veteran

    Nov 18, 2008
    Rochester, NY
    I will be back with the list of Senate Health Committee members in due course, but we have a little more time to deal with that committee. And mailed letters will really be the ideal for them.
  3. dee5

    dee5 Ultra Member ECF Veteran

    Mar 8, 2009
    Northwest Arkansas
    Y- will they even pay attention to faxes from out of state? If you think they will then I'll be happy to help!
  4. Janetda

    Janetda Super Member ECF Veteran

    Jun 24, 2009
    Orange County, CA
    Thanks YVilla! For National Vapers Club members, we're setting up right now with auto emails. This is for anyone that wants the convenience using an auto email system.

    EDIT: is up and running. You can go there to easily send your emails to the Health Com. We also suggest that you call on Monday to let your thoughts be known. Calls often have more impact than emails.

    Thanks for everyone's help!
  5. yvilla

    yvilla Ultra Member Verified Member ECF Veteran

    Nov 18, 2008
    Rochester, NY
    Please do Dee.

    You must have some friend or relative you can be concerned for in NYS? :laugh:

    A PS, not to Dee, but to all: It would be good idea to say we do support the ban on sales to minors, but want Section 2 deleted (in substance).
  6. r8ross

    r8ross Unregistered Supplier ECF Veteran

    Jan 8, 2010
    New York
    Emails have been sent. Printing out letters to go out by snail mail in the morning. Faxes will go out tomorrow as well.
  7. BadThad

    BadThad Super Member Verified Member ECF Veteran

    Sep 13, 2010
    Horrible bill!

    Will they even accept out of state comments?
  8. r8ross

    r8ross Unregistered Supplier ECF Veteran

    Jan 8, 2010
    New York
    Every little bit helps BadThad :) Anything to help get the point and facts across.
  9. rekeybobby

    rekeybobby Super Member Verified Member ECF Veteran

    Aug 7, 2010
    new york
  10. PapaBloog

    PapaBloog Super Member ECF Veteran

    Dec 20, 2010
    Fontana, CA
    I'm from CA - so, snail mail won't reach NY by Tues -- I have sent emails, and will begin faxing tomorrow.

    By the way, why the late notice? Did the notice to convene for a vote only just now appear? Any chance we could get more advanced notice on these votes? We're here to help out in any way!
  11. Treece

    Treece Senior Member ECF Veteran

    Mar 22, 2009
    Here's how I handled the out-of-state issue:

    Subject: Please vote NO on A01468 (electronic cigarettes)!

    Dear Assemblymember _________,

    I'm very disheartened to hear of the bill that would ban the sale of electronic cigarettes in New York. I switched to an electronic cigarette almost two years ago after smoking for more than 30 years. It's one of the best decisions I've ever made.

    There are several companies I order from in New York, so this will affect me directly, as well as thousands of others around the country. My deeper concern, however, is for all the former smokers in New York who have already switched to electronic cigarettes, and for the current smokers who might never have the opportunity to choose to do so.

    The American Association of Public Health Physicians estimates the risks of using e-cigarettes to be "much less than 1%" of the risk of smoking traditional cigarettes. It makes no sense to ban the least dangerous product while leaving the most dangerous on the shelves. This would be a terrible blow to the health of New Yorkers--and it plays directly into the hands of Big Tobacco, which would of course prefer that people continue to smoke.

    Banning e-cigarette sales to minors is, of course, warranted. Banning sales to adults is unconscionable.

    Please, I urge you to vote "no" on A01468.

    Thank you for your consideration.

  12. Danger Bunny

    Danger Bunny Senior Member ECF Veteran

    Jan 8, 2011
    Los Angeles, SFV, CA.
  13. yvilla

    yvilla Ultra Member Verified Member ECF Veteran

    Nov 18, 2008
    Rochester, NY
    I've been watching the NYS legislative pages carefully PapaBloog, both the Senate and the Assembly, knowing this bill has been proposed for both houses. When I discovered earlier today that the bill was on Tuesday's agenda for the Assembly Health Committee, I checked the Assembly rules, and sure enough, all they have to provide by way of notice of committee meeting agendas is by Thursday of the week before the meeting, as follows: "In addition, copies of such agenda shall be made available not later than such Thursday to rep-resentatives of the news media and to the general public by the filing thereof with the Legislative Library and the Assembly Public Information Office." From: Assembly Rules (see, 2b).

    That's why we have to get going on the Senate Health Committee soon too, even though we have no idea when (or if) the Senate version of the bill will be on its agenda. More on this tomorrow!
  14. yvilla

    yvilla Ultra Member Verified Member ECF Veteran

    Nov 18, 2008
    Rochester, NY
    Excellent letter, and wonderful ideas for out-of-staters. Thank you Treece!
  15. IOU

    IOU Resting In Peace ECF Veteran

    Awesome letter!
  16. CES

    CES optimistic cynic Verified Member ECF Veteran

    Supporting member
    Jan 25, 2010
    Birmingham, Al
    The auto email was great! I received an email from the vapers club, hit the link, and opened a message in my outlook program that was ready to go. It was beautiful. Thanks for setting it up.
  17. On it!!! I stumbled it to Alan, as well.
  18. tigerlily

    tigerlily Ultra Member Verified Member ECF Veteran

    Nov 6, 2010
    I don't know if my out-of-state e-mail will help, but I've done what I could. If the NY state legislature is anything like ours they don't really bother researching this stuff before passing laws to regulate it. Perhaps if they get inundated with opposition they will think twice.
  19. Petrodus

    Petrodus Vaping Master ECF Veteran

    Oct 12, 2010
    They aren't going to do any research. All they see is there is a proposed ban regarding
    a "Behavior" that is NOT "Sociably acceptable". No harm in banning it.

    Based on past experience... Emails mean little to nothing to our elected representatives.
    Most never even see them.
  20. Unchained

    Unchained Senior Member ECF Veteran

    Nov 15, 2010
    You have to at least try I dont want to become a criminal. N.Y. was one of the first to enact cig bans now they are nationwide even worldwide. Seems like we pave the way if it gets through here you better watch out where you are.
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