Vaping at a gas station
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Simple impenetrable wisdom...do not vape at a gas station...someone one may feel there is a fire burning and have solid reason to have the fire department embarrass you.
Agree and disagree. Agree the wisdom is impenetrable, as in that doesn't mean what you think it does. Disagree it's either simple or wisdom.
"Vaping at a gas station" is such a broad statement that it could mean many different things. It could mean vaping while standing right next to the pump while gas is being dispensed to your car. And unless I've missed something, no one is advocating that. What I've heard many people saying, including myself, is that there's nothing wrong with vaping, or smoking, away from the pumps.
Most gas stations here are huge affairs. Most have large convenience stores, with the pumps being enough of a distance away to make some of the anti arguments here meaningless. People routinely smoke cigarettes outside of these places. They have outside ashtrays there for crying out loud! I've yet to see anyone "freaking out" when someone is smoking a cigarette away from the pumps. They make millions of dollars selling cigarettes at these places.
It's no big deal people! As long as you're not actually smoking or vaping while holding the gas nozzle, or standing right next to it, no one is going to care. At least here in Texas.
best regards, larry mac
best regards, larry mac
Same answer a cop told me when I was asked, "what is your reason for owning a firearm?" I told him, "For self defense." He told me, "NO...that's the wrong answer...the RIGHT answer is BECAUSE YOU CAN. This is the United States of America. It is your RIGHT." Go figure...a cop schooling me on the Constitution. He's right.
You do things that are safe and legal because you can.
Not true. You can be asked to leave. If you refuse, the business owner can call the police and have you charged with trespassing. No one can lay a hand on you or force you to do anything unless they are a law enforcement officer. If they do touch you, they have assaulted you...and that is a felony.
I wouldn't really vape while pumping gas. I think the point is (for me anyway) that government and the purposely uninformed have screwed this country up dramatically. One right, one freedom at a time is being stripped away. People are so afraid of what the idiots in our society think that they feel they have to "hide" what they do AND what they think. Why should anyone NOT be able to vape a hit or two between the cab and the door of a restaurant? 10 feet from the cab to the door...why not? Freedom is only freedom when you exercise it. Pick whatever Amendment to the Constitution you like...if you exercise the rights given to you, legally and responsibly, you are an example of what this nation's founders had in mind; if you do not exercise your rights? That is what the government hopes for.
I read threads in various forums and, as you said, "shake my head"...people so easily willing to allow their lives to be controlled and oppressed. We have become a nation of submissives.
I just don't see Vaping at a Gas Station as a Constitutional Issue. It's more about having a Little Consideration for the People around you.
It keeps getting back to Why someone Can't Go 5 Minutes Without taking a Hit off an e-Cigarette? Are Some People so Dependent on the Hand to Mouth Ritual or So Addicted to Nicotine that they have to have a PV Duct Tapped to their Hand 24-7?
I think it's more to do with the fact that some people are more militant when it comes to expressing their "rights".
The heating element of a PV is most definitely hot enough to ignite gas vapors. But the E-Juice keeps the actual Nichrome / Kanthal from being exposed to open air so I would say its pretty safe to vape at a gas station. I would however be worried if the tank was nearing empty and the Nichrome / Kanthal were to glow nice and bright orange (like dry burning to clean a coil). If I worked at a gas station I would probably politely ask that people don't use them just to be 100% sure that nothing can come of it.
Was a gas jockey back in the late 70's-early 80's before self-serve made it's way into PA, it was common to see us smoking and pumping gas. At one station, the boss - who was a heavy smoker - used to freak people out when they'd complain. He'd put a bucket of gas on the floor and say "Watch this" as he'd proceed to flick a lit smoke into the bucket. After they got done running away, they'd come back to see that all that happened was the cigarette was extinguished by the liquid fuel. We did this MANY times.
Come on folks ...Really ?
With rights comes responsibility. Do you think vaping at a gas pump is the 'smart' thing to do.
Vaping has enough public image problems without freaking out the general non- vaping public.
It's one thing to assert your rights...it's quite another to be a walking example of an irresponsible .....$$.
We vapers are trying to win hearts & minds. Don't make it more of an uphill battle.
With rights comes responsibility. Do you think vaping at a gas pump is the 'smart' thing to do.
Vaping has enough public image problems without freaking out the general non- vaping public.
It's one thing to assert your rights...it's quite another to be a walking example of an irresponsible .....$$.
We vapers are trying to win hearts & minds. Don't make it more of an uphill battle.
Really!?!? You can't take 4 minutes to fill your tank and not vape or talk on a cell phone. I think you have issues.
I don't think it's really an issue of "going out of your way to freak people"... I mean, I would not vape at a gas station, while pumping gas, ON PURPOSE to freak people... "I'm not even in the mood for vaping right now, but let me just prank that old lady over there"... not going to happen.
On the other hand, if I'm waiting for my turn, inside my car, and the wait becomes too long, I will hapilly vape. Sometimes, I will have the windows rolled down, and 'fog' will show outside. Will that freak people? I do not think so, even because some other people will be probably SMOKING in those very same circunstances.
It's the same as those 'cell-phone warnings'. They tell you not to use it while pumping gas only. I would'nt refrain from using mine while waiting in my car. An there's also a battery in there...
I don't think it's really an issue of "going out of your way to freak people"... I mean, I would not vape at a gas station, while pumping gas, ON PURPOSE to freak people... "I'm not even in the mood for vaping right now, but let me just prank that old lady over there"... not going to happen.
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Not saying that you Would.
But if you Know that some people are going to be Freaked Out when they see what they think is "Smoke" coming out of Someone's Mouth, why would a person vape at a Gas Station?
I mean if this was some Long Wait (like 30 Minutes - LOL) I could kinda see it. Some people can't go a Long Time (like 30 Minutes) without taking a Hit of an e-Cigarette.
But How Long does it take to Fill Up a Car with Gasoline?
they dont want you smoking at the pump because some fool will be using his lighter, its not that a lit cigarette can ignite gasoline like the movies.
likewise i can see arcing in switches when vaping being a reason to not allow it at the pump
eta, a cig could theoretically ignite something else that burns hotter and in turn could ignite gas
also what does this have to do with law, im pretty sure this is a condition placed on you by the business when doing business with them
likewise i can see arcing in switches when vaping being a reason to not allow it at the pump
eta, a cig could theoretically ignite something else that burns hotter and in turn could ignite gas
also what does this have to do with law, im pretty sure this is a condition placed on you by the business when doing business with them
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