People call e-cigs vaporizers and wonder why they are associated with the other stuff...
I sometimes go with what I saw on here on some ones signature. I do not smoke or vape, it is portable aroma therapy.......... along those lines.People call e-cigs vaporizers and wonder why they are associated with the other stuff...
I sometimes go with what I saw on here on some ones signature. I do not smoke or vape, it is portable aroma therapy.......... along those lines.
Personally I would have told them thank you, but I will leave and go where my vape is accommodated. But I am getting very militant about it. I already vote with my feet at a local bar or two that has disallowed vaping. I figure I have a year or two at most before it is outlawed in all public places (like cigs here) so I'm going to enjoy it wherever I can, as much as I can, do it respectfully (no clouds, bro)
The real thing is: being allowed to vape doesn't give you the right to see how big a cloud you can blow when theres a family sitting next to you trying to enjoy a meal. Because of that most places where I live wont allow it anymore.
This is an interesting subject and it is something that I have wondered about myself. I quit going to bars on any kind of a regular basis, quite a few years ago. I live up here in Montana and, heck, I can remember the days of cigarette smoke just rolling out of the doors and windows. I so happen to know a few bar owners and whenever I think about this issue, I am going to make a point to ask. I just know here where I live, a person cannot smoke tobacco products of any kind within X amount of feet of any public building. I am not even sure what that distance is. The part of the country that I live in is very remote, so therefore this is not an issue for me. Well...in the winter time it sure as heck might be! I am going to ask around about this issue and see just what the deal is. Thanks for postingI still remember when I could smoke inside a bar, that seems like just yesterday. Then they passed the indoor smoking ban, & so much for that. Personally I'm not a huge drinker, but I feel that drinking & smoking or vaping go together. You have a drink, you want to smoke or vape. One thing I noticed was when they started passing all the bans, bars got way more clicky. A few years back, before the ban, I'd meet and talk to cool people I'd otherwise might never have talked to, just because we were smoking together. Now, all the smokers are outside and everyone else inside, it's made things way more clicky, at least at the gay bars I go to. I'd like to see vaping bring back some of that mingling that I miss. Actually I don't see why bars don't hand out ecigs or at least sell them, they'd get tons more people into vaping that way, and off of cigarettes.
I perfectly understand what you are saying. Exactly as a matter of fact. You may find this amusing, but up here in Montana where I live, I have taken keen notice of the fact that it does not take a person very long to "hot box" their cigarettes in a shorter amount of time compared to if they were smoking inside. Montana, as you may know, is one of the coldest states in the lower 48. I have seen temps of minus 50 degrees F. Depending upon what a person is doing (skiing, ice fishing,etc)....as an X-cigarette smoker, I have found it difficult to even get a cigarette going, much less smoke the dang thing. Then if you live in a high altitude (which I do)....cigarettes have the tendency to go out. I guess I wandered off topic here, but interesting subject none-the-lessYea I don't do the bar scenes nearly as much as I used to, mostly got it out of my system lol. But I definitely notice since the smoking ban that the crowds are extremely clickish like nobody talks to anyone outside their group. Back a few years ago everyone pretty much hungout with everyone at least at the bars I went to, people would ask if I needed a light or if they could bum a smoke, we'd drink & smoke at the same time. Now it's weird, smokers have to go out, and other people are inside & you just don't meet new people as much. As someone with mild autism, it's way more difficult now because I'm not going to go up and start talking to someone I don't know. Before the smoking ban, people would interact with me a lot easier, and I found it easier to socialize. Yet another thing the health nazis ruined. I hope to make a lot of new friends at the vape lounges though
I second that. I just moved to Raleigh North Carolina. Prior I lived all over NYC/Westchester and always got the dirtiest looks...... It baffles me because in bars and clubs bouncers look the other way with people putting all sorts of power into their nose yet were simply vaping and NYC acts like we're ending the world!Most places in NYC would just give you the boot.
I was what you call an embarrassed smoker. Even when it was allowed, I tried not to. At least kept it to a minimum. If someone else near me was doing it, I refrained. That kind of thing. Since it's been banned almost everywhere, it became smoking outside is the only way.
Out for dinner and drinks with friends? Who among us wanted to go 90 minutes with food and alcohol and not have some nicotine? For my own comfort I would sneak outside for one. Maybe I'd be lucky and one other person among the group would be in the same boat. Usually not.
And it's hard here in Wisconsin. Minnesotans will feel my pain as well. When it's 12 degrees out and there's a vicious wind blowing sleet into your face, you do not want to be outside no matter what coat you may have on. This is how I learned to smoke really quickly. 25 years ago you could smoke leisurely, letting a cigarette dangle from your while you talked or sit in an ashtray waiting for you to pick it up--not so, post-ban. Those of us in colder climes learned to suck down that cig right quick. I smoked all my cigarettes that way after that.
I have take a vape or two in the restroom of an airport. Air travel is the worst. If you're going any distance and you don't have a direct route, you're looking at 3/4 of a day spent in airports behind the security line and well away from any egress to the out-of-doors. Smoke-free, baby. All Fing day. I used to bring nicotine patches with me to deal with such things. Now that I've weaned myself down to a 6 liquid, I don't bother. But, as I've said, I've been know to hit it in the men's room once in a while.
I'm mostly good with indoor smoking bans. But I will feel a little cheated when winter rolls around and I have to don my park and duck out the back door of the restaurant to take a vape or three.
I live in a house with children--one pretty asthmatic--and no one is concerned. Everyone here knows that it's no threat to him or to anyone.
I have seen those who say it's not ok to vape in front of small children, as it's a bad example. I hadn't thought of that before and I think you're right. From now on I'll be in another room. Thanks for helping me!
Anyone Vaping in places where you cant smoke will only make it worse for vapers in general.
I dont get what is so hard about not vaping around people who dont want you to.
Stealth vaping in bathrooms is about as juvenile as you can get. And pretty sad at that.
We should not vape where we can't smoke, as a general respect to the non-vaping folksI vape mostly in my car, at home, and at work. Fri was my b day so we had dinner and a few drinks at a local bar with about 10 friends. 3 others and myself vape. I am pretty new to vaping and for some strange reason feel hesitant about vaping in public. After our drinks were served and the waiter noticed we were using pv's we were asked to move to a corner table so as not to bother anyone else. We gladly did to avoid any problems but I felt a little discouraged. Why do the people that chose to quit smoking have to hide in the corner while 20 or so people stand right in front of the door smoking with plumes of smoke trailing behind them as they walk back in? Our vapor was hardly noticable.
To sum this up I'm proud I've been cig free for a short time. After this experience I don't feel like an outcast vaping in public. Anyone been asked to move seating?
Said no politically aware vaper. Ever.
That's pretty easy actually. It's vaping in establishments when you aren't around people and yet the claim is still being made that it is bothersome. That's tough to understand, and yet still easy to vape.
Suggesting you only vape where smoking is allowed is way more pathetic.