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Vaping in Public places indoor. Do you do it?

Discussion in 'E-Cigarettes in Public' started by RyanRed, Jun 9, 2012.

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  1. sailorman

    sailorman Unregistered Supplier ECF Veteran

    Jun 5, 2010
    The Florida Oil Coast
    Yes. God forbid that poor mommy have to explain to her children that steam is not the same as smoke. I wonder what mommy would say when her little darling asked why that man's coffee cup was on fire? Should my hot steak be served cold lest some parent be forced to explain to her child that it's not on fire?

    Sorry. I feel no obligation to protect grown adults from answering the questions of their children, or children from asking questions. I feel less obligation to protect parents from having to teach their children the difference between vapor, steam and smoke.

    Good Lord! Would you restrict all your public activities only to things children can understand without having to ask their parents questions? Children SHOULD have to ask mommy stuff. They should be encouraged and even forced to ask questions. They should always be in situations where they need to ask questions. How intellectually stunting if it were otherwise?

    If you are unaware of something, I'll be glad to enlighten you. But don't expect me modify my behavior for no other reason than to cater to your unawareness. If I did that, I'd only be perpetuating your ignorance and nothing would ever happen to make vaping more socially unremarkable.
     
  2. kwalka

    kwalka Unregistered Supplier ECF Veteran

    Jan 23, 2012
    Clearwater, Florida
    ^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^
    I stopped reading here. Yes we are all entitled to our opinions, but there it is right there. Thats the truth, the whole truth, and nothing but the truth, so help me who ever you believe in!
    Sailorman and I have taken part in several heated threads on this topic alone and like I said, there is the whole subject in a nutshell. Well done my friend, once again. You need to just copy and paste that little bit of truth.
    Vape everywhere folks!!
     
  3. sailorman

    sailorman Unregistered Supplier ECF Veteran

    Jun 5, 2010
    The Florida Oil Coast
    Maybe it's different in China, but in the U.S., there are many people who are already telling people the difference. They are telling them that there is NO difference. They are telling them that e-cigs are worse than cigarettes, more dangerous than cigarettes. So, either we stop hiding in the shadows, or everything the public knows about e-cigs will be taught to them by the FDA, BP and the anti-nicotine zealots. We will lose by default. It's already happened and it is continuing constantly.

    We live in an insulated e-cig friendly world here on ECF. Go to some of the other websites. Google "are e-cigs safe". You will get a tiny peek at the results of a massive disinformation campaign launched by the anti-nicotine zealots. All the propaganda about exploding batteries, DEG in e-juice, anti-freeze, etc. has invaded the minds of people all over this country. If we sit back and try to be low-key about this, we will lose the propaganda war before we even knew it was launched.
     
  4. Stormlark

    Stormlark Super Member Verified Member ECF Veteran

    May 16, 2012
    Boise
    I haven't done much vaping in public yet. When I first got my starter kit, my husband wouldn't even let me do it in the house. I eventually got him to change his mind after proving to him that there was no smell, but he still believes the second-hand vapor could be harmful. When we're at friends' houses, I ask if it's OK to do it indoors and they've all been fine with it, though my husband usually starts talking about the possible dangers, etc.

    At my university, I used it outdoors a few times, away from entrances and heavy foot traffic. I had one person come up to me to ask if it was an electronic cigarette and then they offered me their old vaping supplies since they stopped smoking as well as vaping. I turned them down, though.

    I checked the smoking restrictions for my city and it specifically states that electronic cigarettes are not prohibited anywhere. My sister works at a bar and says that vaping is very common. The next time I go to a bar, I plan to vape.

    The big test is that tomorrow I'm going out to eat followed by a movie. If it wasn't for my husband, I'd stealth vape during the show, but he'd probably have a fit about "secretly putting others at risk." I'm wondering if I should talk to him again to try to convince him that it's safer than he seems to think.
     
  5. kwalka

    kwalka Unregistered Supplier ECF Veteran

    Jan 23, 2012
    Clearwater, Florida
    PG is the main stabilizing agent in asthma inhalers. I went to the movies a few weeks ago and the theatre was packed. My wife and I were forced to sit dead center. I noticed b4 we sat a couple directly behind us and the woman was very pregnant. So, b4 I sat I started to pull my eGo out and said "if you guys see me exhaling its not smoke" and she cut me off and said "oh its fine go right ahead". For 2+ hrs I sat there vaping away and nobody said a word. Now I wasn't blowing clouds of vapor to obscure anybodys view, but I also wasn't hiding either.
    My wife was skeptical at first also. After some research she's thrilled. A world renowned cardiologist just did a 2hr power point presentation on the vape teams show. (I'm pretty sure its the v team I always mix the 2 up), and he presented his results of a very indepth study that showed that this stuff is harmless. This is nothing more than a political debate at this point, and we need as many people on our side as possible.
     
  6. Stormlark

    Stormlark Super Member Verified Member ECF Veteran

    May 16, 2012
    Boise
    The main problem with convincing my husband is that he believes any study done that proves vaping isn't harmful is funded by e-cig companies or people who support vaping. He's convinced that the FDA is the only unbiased opinion out there and as you may know, the FDA hasn't been very kind to vaping.

    So the thing with the parrot? biased. The cardiologist on the vaping show? biased. And the studies that show second-hand vapor is less harmful than second-hand smoke don't prove that it's completely harmless, only less so. Until the FDA releases better studies, I don't think he'll believe that second-hand vapor isn't an issue.
     
  7. kwalka

    kwalka Unregistered Supplier ECF Veteran

    Jan 23, 2012
    Clearwater, Florida
    I've been married for 14 yrs w 4 kids and I would never badmouth anybody, but I will express my opinion. If he believes the FDA is a nonbiased entity then you have a much bigger problem on your hands than e cigs. Not trying to be offensive just my 2 cents. The FDA is a billboard for who ever has the most $.
     
  8. I'm in Illinois...the most corrupt state ever, I was vaping last night in the otb, had to bet the belmont stakes race then after we left we stopped at a taco bell tried again, had a Niles cop tell me "put that away, " to which I replied I will when im finished and he didnt do anything. Of course I always challenge police on what they say since most cannot tell a chevrolet from a cow.
     
  9. I asked a friend of mine who is the chief of police in skokie about it, he said there is nothing illegal about it so it would be up to the store manager and or the responding officer if police were called so in my case I will always challenge the police officer who is too stupid not to listen to what I say about it not being smoking. If we continue to accept what the police and government want soon we will be living in a police state.
     
  10. neeceann

    neeceann Senior Member ECF Veteran

    Jun 9, 2012
    West Virginia
    I don't vape inside public places except for work because i don't want to offend anyone. As for the FDA, they are sometimes wrong too. They have approved drugs that have caused serious side effects.
     
  11. 2GLR

    2GLR Super Member Verified Member ECF Veteran

    May 1, 2012
    Cedar Rapids
    I tend to take the less rebellious approach to this question. In a restaurant I ask my waiter/waitress very politely if I can vape. If they say no it is their decision, no explanations, no arguing. In a store I usually won't vape unless I am stuck there for a long time. In that case I hold the vapor in my mouth for about 5 seconds and then exhale to the floor. If the establishment doesn't approve, their is no reason to get any police involvement. At work, I vape when I am sitting, and try to be courteous, I blow the vapor at my lap, or the floor. People seem to change attitudes when the see the vapor doesn't rise like cigarette smoke.

    At home or in my truck, I vape almost non stop. Those are my establishments, and nobody is going to tell me otherwise. My wife's friend went to tell me how bad it was, and I kicked her out of my house without any discussion.

    As for the leering glances on the street, I don't pay much attention to them while I am vaping. At 6'4" and 300 pounds, I get awkward glances whether I am vaping or not.

    The point I am trying to make, is that in the public eye I think it is important to be respectful of others opinions. I don't argue, or preach about the benefits. People these days like their soap boxes on a flatscreen, and not in person.
     
  12. Hisapwap

    Hisapwap New Member

    May 20, 2012
    Malaysia
    In Malaysia, you'll get stared at for vaping. Not because of you're assimilating smoking but because you're holding something that doesn't look anything like an analog but has a lot of smoke (vapour) when you puff....LOL:vapor:
     
  13. Erin0303

    Erin0303 New Member

    Jun 9, 2012
    Canada
    I haven'y my own device yet. I have seen someone using one in school once. I don't know how I feel about doin it indoors. I would probably be vaping 0mg stuff, so I know there is no harm to others, but it's the whole act of it that would make some people turn heads. Don't know how I feel about it.
     
  14. Wabbeln

    Wabbeln Moved On

    May 3, 2012
    Haven't gone into any stores and openly vaped, but I also didn't do that when I smoked. It doesn't occur to me to take my PV into stores with me. Did go see the Alabama Symphony last weekend in the park, and vaped while I was there. Didn't have any issues, and only had one person ask what I was "smoking".
     
  15. tj99959

    tj99959 ECF Guru ECF Veteran

    Aug 13, 2011
    utah
    It's against the law here, so NO, I do not vape in public buildings.
     
  16. byfert

    byfert Full Member

    Feb 7, 2012
    PA
    I vape in public places. At a motorcycle rally I was once vaping inside a tour boat after eating lunch and someone went and brought the fire marshall to talk to me. After seeing that I was vaping and not smoking he told me to have a nice day. I have been told by managers at work that we are a tobacco free environment and I am not alowed to vape at work so now I go into the bathroom.
     
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  18. ChipHead

    ChipHead Super Member ECF Veteran

    Feb 13, 2011
    NH
    I vape everywhere. Stores, restaurants, out in public, etc. No one has ever objected but I will stop if someone ever requests me to.
     
  19. Bullette the Cowdog

    Bullette the Cowdog Ultra Member ECF Veteran

    Mar 5, 2012
    Treasure Coast, FL
    Chantix anyone?
    Thalidomide maybe?
    Oh yeah.
     
  20. NeeseNE

    NeeseNE Full Member Verified Member

    Jun 7, 2012
    California
    I have this same approach. I vape whenever where ever, but would gladly stop if anyone were offended. When I'm indoors, on public property, I hold the vapor in long enough to let it dissipate.
     
  21. Vapoor eyes er

    Vapoor eyes er ECF Guru ECF Veteran

    Sep 13, 2011
    Toronto, Ont.
    I also don't so don't usually go to bars. If I go out for dinner I will speak to the Manager first. In Malls and stores I vape away but not "in your face". I've never had any problems or issues while Vaping on private property. There's a friend's place that I sometimes go and I vape 0 Nic with menthol cuz he "healthaphobic" but understands and supports my Vaping- we met halfway and if I really need a Nic hit I change cartos and go outside. Bottom line is if I'm on private property I respect those rights. Amazing though the amount of interest when they find out I've been analog free for 8+ months.
     
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