I'm just going to start one thread and put all my reviews here (hope this doesn't break any rules). It will ultimately be a bit more neat this way
In an effort to be more tidy, I'm going to ask nicely that no one post any comments here. Please? Pretty please? Feel free to PM or chime in on the threads I linked at the end of this post. Thank you.
Some cool dudes hipped me to the new flavors being brought in my vaping zone a little while back.
These are all my opinions (duh). I don't claim to know much about anything. I've only been vaping for about 4-5 months now, and DIYing for about 3 months at most. Most of what I've done right I picked up from the vets on these boards, most of what I've done wrong has been all cyrus.
First some general info and observations on flavors:
1) These flavors all use alcohol as the flavor carrier.
2) They are extremely concentrated (the recommendation is 2.5.% Some report this being too much and make way with 1-2%, some DIYers who use heavy VG use a tad more, on the order of 3-5% max. I have yet to see anyone reporting the need to go higher, but I'm sure eventually someone will, as we are all different).
Personally I have used FA flavorings (which are considered concentrated, and they are) from 1 drop to 15.% I tend to be a bit of a flavor junky. I have yet to feel the need to go above 5% with these, and even that was only a few times.
In hindsight with those specific mixes, I ended up deciding that 3-4% was a better mark for me. And I use heavy VG (40-75%).
3) As I understand it the tobaccos are all flavor extractions from actual tobacco.
I can't validate this or refute it in any objective way. However, as a former pipe smoker, lover of walking into tobacco shops just to take a few whiffs (even these days), and someone who has recently dabbled a bit in tobacco extractions, I would be shocked if these were NOT flavors extracted from tobacco.
Nose: All of the tobaccos I have (see below) are unique among DIY flavors I own in that the second you uncap the bottle, they smell like fresh tobacco of some sort. Whether its pipe, cigar, cigarette, or something in between, the dominant nose is fresh tobacco. In many ways its just like walking into a tobacco shop.
Color: Most tend to be on the light side, a few darker. The flavor concentrations used are so low that the resulting mix tends to be very light.
Consistency: They are all very thin, essentially of equal viscosity to booze. This is very good because....
Drops: I use a graduated cylinder generally when mixing. I've found with every bottle so far that 5 drops equals .1 ml. If you are shocked because you thought 4 drops or 2 drops was equal to .1 ml, think about the things that affect this equation, notably, viscosity. These are thin flavors. More drops per ml. As someone who likes to be neurotic about their mixes with the graduated cylinder, this makes life even more easy, because I have yet to find any variation on this number above, and I can just add my 7 drops per 5ml (2.8%) without having my nose up to the cylinder to watch for the bottom of the meniscus to settle on the magic line. Or just mix straight into a bottle.
4) Every single one I've tried thus far works near perfect, or perfect, as a standalone flavoring. This is entirely unique in my experience in comparison to FA or TPA. This translates into easy success, limited frustration for the new mixer (new as in newb or new as in hey I just got this new flavor), and less wasted supplies. Many capella lovers often comment on how forgiving those flavors are. To me, these flavors are incredibly forgiving.
5) you won't return to your bottle after a few days and find that the flavor has vanished. enough said.
6) they do improve considerably with steeping, but are excellent right away as well.
7) this is just a hypothesis at this point, but I believe 'airing' (e.g. uncapping the bottle) can speed up the maturation process here, as it gives the alcohol-sweet notes to fly away. I'm still playing with this one. But even without airing, they are minimal, and will fly away on their own. Some report maximal maturity at 2 weeks, some a month. Some right away.
8) They DO mix well with other flavors in my limited experience so far. I've had a few winning combinations already with FA. And they also mix well together, not surprisingly.
I was going to cut and paste earlier reviews I posted in the threads below, but I think that would be boring. Instead as I revisit the flavors or visit them for the first time, I'll post fresh impressions here.
That's all about that for now
On to specific stuff, in time. Please be patient!
You can find more buzz here and here:
http://www.e-cigarette-forum.com/forum/diy-e-liquid/270008-new-super-concentrated-flavors.html
http://www.e-cigarette-forum.com/forum/e-cigarette-suppliers-forum/272516-e-liquid-vz-usa.html
In an effort to be more tidy, I'm going to ask nicely that no one post any comments here. Please? Pretty please? Feel free to PM or chime in on the threads I linked at the end of this post. Thank you.
Some cool dudes hipped me to the new flavors being brought in my vaping zone a little while back.
These are all my opinions (duh). I don't claim to know much about anything. I've only been vaping for about 4-5 months now, and DIYing for about 3 months at most. Most of what I've done right I picked up from the vets on these boards, most of what I've done wrong has been all cyrus.
First some general info and observations on flavors:
1) These flavors all use alcohol as the flavor carrier.
2) They are extremely concentrated (the recommendation is 2.5.% Some report this being too much and make way with 1-2%, some DIYers who use heavy VG use a tad more, on the order of 3-5% max. I have yet to see anyone reporting the need to go higher, but I'm sure eventually someone will, as we are all different).
Personally I have used FA flavorings (which are considered concentrated, and they are) from 1 drop to 15.% I tend to be a bit of a flavor junky. I have yet to feel the need to go above 5% with these, and even that was only a few times.
In hindsight with those specific mixes, I ended up deciding that 3-4% was a better mark for me. And I use heavy VG (40-75%).
3) As I understand it the tobaccos are all flavor extractions from actual tobacco.
I can't validate this or refute it in any objective way. However, as a former pipe smoker, lover of walking into tobacco shops just to take a few whiffs (even these days), and someone who has recently dabbled a bit in tobacco extractions, I would be shocked if these were NOT flavors extracted from tobacco.
Nose: All of the tobaccos I have (see below) are unique among DIY flavors I own in that the second you uncap the bottle, they smell like fresh tobacco of some sort. Whether its pipe, cigar, cigarette, or something in between, the dominant nose is fresh tobacco. In many ways its just like walking into a tobacco shop.
Color: Most tend to be on the light side, a few darker. The flavor concentrations used are so low that the resulting mix tends to be very light.
Consistency: They are all very thin, essentially of equal viscosity to booze. This is very good because....
Drops: I use a graduated cylinder generally when mixing. I've found with every bottle so far that 5 drops equals .1 ml. If you are shocked because you thought 4 drops or 2 drops was equal to .1 ml, think about the things that affect this equation, notably, viscosity. These are thin flavors. More drops per ml. As someone who likes to be neurotic about their mixes with the graduated cylinder, this makes life even more easy, because I have yet to find any variation on this number above, and I can just add my 7 drops per 5ml (2.8%) without having my nose up to the cylinder to watch for the bottom of the meniscus to settle on the magic line. Or just mix straight into a bottle.
4) Every single one I've tried thus far works near perfect, or perfect, as a standalone flavoring. This is entirely unique in my experience in comparison to FA or TPA. This translates into easy success, limited frustration for the new mixer (new as in newb or new as in hey I just got this new flavor), and less wasted supplies. Many capella lovers often comment on how forgiving those flavors are. To me, these flavors are incredibly forgiving.
5) you won't return to your bottle after a few days and find that the flavor has vanished. enough said.
6) they do improve considerably with steeping, but are excellent right away as well.
7) this is just a hypothesis at this point, but I believe 'airing' (e.g. uncapping the bottle) can speed up the maturation process here, as it gives the alcohol-sweet notes to fly away. I'm still playing with this one. But even without airing, they are minimal, and will fly away on their own. Some report maximal maturity at 2 weeks, some a month. Some right away.
8) They DO mix well with other flavors in my limited experience so far. I've had a few winning combinations already with FA. And they also mix well together, not surprisingly.
I was going to cut and paste earlier reviews I posted in the threads below, but I think that would be boring. Instead as I revisit the flavors or visit them for the first time, I'll post fresh impressions here.
That's all about that for now
On to specific stuff, in time. Please be patient!
You can find more buzz here and here:
http://www.e-cigarette-forum.com/forum/diy-e-liquid/270008-new-super-concentrated-flavors.html
http://www.e-cigarette-forum.com/forum/e-cigarette-suppliers-forum/272516-e-liquid-vz-usa.html
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