Vegetable Glycerin Warning!
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OP, I'm curious, what were your AST, ALT numbers?
But yeah, my other question is, how much alcohol do you consume?
But yeah, my other question is, how much alcohol do you consume?
I guess I'm wondering why someone would post any type of "warning" without any facts to back it up.
How is this helpful to anyone?
How is this helpful to anyone?
That's exactly what "public health" is doing... I guess it's catching.
The only problems I know about with VG are that some people have breathing problems if they use too much of it -- I can't use more than about 16%. Thank goodness I have no issues with PG!
Andria
I am diabetic and taking several meds that can cause liver damage. I have routine blood tests every 3 to 6 months for that reason. My A1C is below 7 (6.5 on my last blood test). No elevated liver enzymes and I vape high VG juices (30/70 and 25/75) and at least 10 ml every day.
If you have elevated liver enzymes, it ain't the VG causing it. You should go see a doctor.
If you have elevated liver enzymes, it ain't the VG causing it. You should go see a doctor.
I don't think glycerin converts to sugar either. I'll try to find the article I read, but it was metabolized differently than carbohydrates, so that it did not raise blood glucose.
Seriously? You're inhaling the VG, not ingesting it. Even if you did drink 3ml of pure VG a day, I'm pretty confident you are getting a lot more sugar from other sources in you diet. Please don't be throwing around supposedly scary stuff from one anecdotal incident without having something more to back it up.
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Ryan, I understand your concern, but your thread title is a bit of scare mongering. If you had studies that backed up such a warning, that would be one thing. Like the others have said, maybe get some more blood work done and find out the real cause of high enzymes. Sometimes it's something simple and they just return to normal. Good luck to you.
maybe you should get a second professional opinion before shouting from the rafters ... vaping VG is causing damage to your liver.
I'm with others ... how much booze do you drink?
from what I read at medicine net, ALT and AST levels don't seem to be definitive reflectors of liver functioning. They are better indicators that the liver is fighting some sort of viral infection such as Hep C to reacting to anything from ingestion (toxicity) of narcotics, barbituates, acetaminophen, ibuprofen, and aspirin to common antibiotics such as tetracycline. So, just about anything can skew the values.
the article linked below says that Albumin (3.5 to 5 g/dL) and bilirubin (0.1 to 1.0 mg/dL) levels are better indicators of liver health as are LDH (150,000 to 400,000 per microliter (mcL) and platelet count (150,000 to 400,000 per microliter (mcL). So if you only have one value off, and your doctor didn't order follow-on tests, you probably don't have much to worry about.
If you have any concerns about test results, you really should call your doctor for a better explanation. But anyway, here's the link:
What blood tests are done to detect liver function? (Continued) - Liver Blood Tests: Get the Facts on Abnormal Values
I would just like to suggest, that if people are having some type of problem, and the cause is not known for certain, to please refrain from posting things like, "WARNING! VG WARNING!" in seemingly urgent headlines. You scare the bejesus out of people for no apparent reason. Might even cause a few heart attacks, for God's sake. It COULD have been the peanut butter and jelly sandwich you ate the morning of your test.
I think that we ALL want to know if and when some vaping ingredient is known to be a problem, but
PUHLEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEASE........(as I go right back to vaping my 80 VG/20 PG delicious peach.....)
I think that we ALL want to know if and when some vaping ingredient is known to be a problem, but
PUHLEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEASE........(as I go right back to vaping my 80 VG/20 PG delicious peach.....)
His absence in this thread I think speaks volumes as to the true intention of the post...
I'll admit... I'm naive and gullible. I friggin hate these type of threads.. Especially since my liver isn't good to begin with..
Exactly -- the ANTZ credo -- "if you can't find anything ACTUALLY bad about vaping... just MAKE SOMETHING UP and HOLLER IT REAL LOUD!"
Andria
First of all, elevated alanine aminotransferase levels usually point to liver disease along the lines of cirrhosis and hepatitis. Elevated levels of sugar that would lead to such noticeable liver damage would have manifested in other organs far before.
OP, you're not getting that much VG through inhalation, not enough by a long shot to cause "sugar" imbalances metabolically!
OP, you're not getting that much VG through inhalation, not enough by a long shot to cause "sugar" imbalances metabolically!
I'll admit... I'm naive and gullible. I friggin hate these type of threads.. Especially since my liver isn't good to begin with..
Agreed, for a minute I thought about having to give up vaping which would be very hard as it's for an Auto-Immune Disorder. Having a biopsy on mine Wed because they can't find why I have high levels.
All part of the Internet, I suppose...
OP, your post is woefully inadequate. The evidence (or rather lack thereof) presented does not constitute a "warning" of any kind.
I really do not want to be rude, but there is more than enough misinformation out there to confuse the masses. If at all possible, let's not add to it.
*Disclaimer: copy/pasted from the other, identical, now closed thread. Speaking of which, this thread should be closed as well, due to utter nonsense and silly goosery.
I really do not want to be rude, but there is more than enough misinformation out there to confuse the masses. If at all possible, let's not add to it.
*Disclaimer: copy/pasted from the other, identical, now closed thread. Speaking of which, this thread should be closed as well, due to utter nonsense and silly goosery.
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