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Discussion in 'Forum How-To's' started by Ast_Isis, Dec 17, 2009.

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  1. seminolewind

    seminolewind Ultra Member Verified Member ECF Veteran

    That idea has been on my mind for weeks! I think, since there are so many, I would appreciate them being in alphabetical order. Please

    Is this a message board for members? Or sales?
    I don't know about you all but when I open a catalog, I don't stop at the first page. And when I look at a list of suppliers, I don't stop at the A's. I don't particularly think that being first on the list is a good thing. Having a sale is a good thing.
     
  2. rolygate

    rolygate Forum Manager Admin Verified Member ECF Veteran

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    Hi Seminolewind,

    Please see my last post, the one before yours. It's quicker and easier to find a supplier's forum by Cntrl+F than if they are listed alphabetically. So the current ordering of longest-here at the top is just fine, you can find most of them in two or three seconds. As that's faster than scrolling down an alpha list, I figure it's not only acceptable but preferable.

    I need to find different supplier forums several times a day and alphabetical listing would be too slow for me. Some of them can be reached from the top of the page in less than a second by using Cntrl+F. Much faster than alpha listing.
     
  3. lordmage

    lordmage Ultra Member Verified Member ECF Veteran

    Dec 15, 2008
    Dundalk,Maryland, USA
    dont mind me tweaking his suggestion a bit
    Edit: no longer an issue with a re write thanks roly
     
  4. TWISTED VICTOR

    TWISTED VICTOR Vaping Master ECF Veteran

    Sep 14, 2009
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  5. rolygate

    rolygate Forum Manager Admin Verified Member ECF Veteran

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    Hey LM,

    What can I say, re-reading my Cntrl+F tute again it did look a bit abrupt. No doubt done after yet another 12-hour day on ECF I guess. I toned it down a bit.

    Thanks for the heads-up.

    I still think oldest-serving at the top, new guys at the bottom is the best value for members as they can easily see who's been around longest. Despite any rumours to the contrary, we don't just take the money if it suits us :) And since:

    • It's faster to find the names by Cntrl+F than via alpha list scrolling
    • It's much better info for members to see who is long-serving
    ...I don't see it changing any time soon.

    ps ..... I hope this isn't too direct for you :D
     
  6. CatVTTV

    CatVTTV Ultra Member Verified Member ECF Veteran

    Mar 26, 2009
    Tyne & Wear, UK
    Has anyone ever considered listing them by location?

    I'm UK and when I first came here it was a nightmare going through that list looking for UK suppliers.

    Everyday I see a new person posting the question 'where can I find a local supplier?' and that question seems to have priority over the 'can they be trusted?' one..

    Yes I realise most suppliers are US based, but to have them listed under the name of the state, would I believe help newcomers considerably.

    The Vendors themselves surely would not have a problem with this? as it would not interfere with their length of time on ECF status.
     
  7. lordmage

    lordmage Ultra Member Verified Member ECF Veteran

    Dec 15, 2008
    Dundalk,Maryland, USA
    RG,

    no worries man and if you look at my suggest it would allow those long standing vet suppliers,regular suppliers who want to be list A-Z an option to do with or without fee.
    i'll check your rewording and thanks ahead of time for the tone down.

    Edit: Yes Ty for the tone down. i do understand about the long days we all have them from time to time.
    Let me make it clear my earlier post was not about a standing policy only a suggestion for a possible semi solution for each section of suppliers
    Vet suppliers who want to could be listed A-Z ahead of the random ones for the section. the same can be said for the other non vets as well. which would separate the Vets from the non vets
    Main Home Page
    -Sponsoring suppliers break it down do Vets non-vets and new guys
    --Vet long standing suppliers A-Z at the top (Vet suppliers section)
    -- non Vet suppliers A-Z (regular supplier section)
    --New guys A-Z below them in there own section (New supplier section)

    Maybe you can see some what what i was suggesting
    Yes using search Ie ctrl F is a easy solution for those who know about it but if in the end it don't matter about weather it is A-z or not then why not just do A-Z just to make it seem more orderly,neat and clean if for no other reason. the Vets could be A-z above the non-vets to address your issue of giving them better placement. if this will never change maybe it would be better to come out and point by point explain why it may go a long way towards stopping the request that will never be.

    I do agree that maybe A note of some sort to basic area. take Vaporcountry for example maybe on the front page it could be Vapor country -Baltimore,Md basic location members may want to support there local supplier if they have that option.
     
  8. rolygate

    rolygate Forum Manager Admin Verified Member ECF Veteran

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    @Cat
    @LM

    Yes we definitely need a Location 'marking' of some kind. First I thought another page with all that stuff on it. Then - no - simple is best.

    So let's just have something like 'US, MD, Baltimore' or 'CAN, Montreal' by their names, maybe. We can have an info page as well, later.
     
  9. Lightgeoduck

    Lightgeoduck Vaping Master Verified Member ECF Veteran

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    Hmmm almost too simple... I like it.... sort of like using the google search bar in the bottom left of the site to find that thread that everyone is talking about

    RG Thanks for the tip...even after the not so computer savvy give that tip a try no matter how it's organized people sould be satisfied..

    Good Job.... and keep it up :D
     
  10. pcqueene

    pcqueene Senior Member Verified Member ECF Veteran

    Nov 19, 2009
    Quad Cities, IL
    OH! A location of suppliers would be fantastic. I go into the suppliers threads and find their location as 'right behind you' or something similar, it's hard. To go to their websites and find no locations is also frustrating. I don't know if they're UK (sometimes the prices give it away), China, US, or BFE.

    I am very happy to have found this forum and love the information provided here. I don't mind digging for information, but the suppliers list is l-o-n-g.
     
  11. rolygate

    rolygate Forum Manager Admin Verified Member ECF Veteran

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    OK we are on to the supplier location thing. Locations are being added after the supplier name of their forums.

    Some the Mods couldn't find on their sites so I've just put a ?? for now - if you happen to know where they are then let me know by PM please.

    Also there is currently an 'anonymous supplier' issue: in the past, nobody worried too much if we didn't have full details for them, or if they had no proper Contact page on their site. That has finished now and all suppliers will be required to have their full details lodged with us, and to have a Contact page on their site with an email and address. Anonymous virtual suppliers will not be allowed and any that refuse to comply will be gone.

    However there is an issue with full enforcement of this right now: US suppliers have a big problem with FDA pressure and may even risk unwarranted action from over-enthusiastic governement agencies. They have a genuine need to avoid exact locations on their sites. We will assist by giving only a rough location for them till this is all settled. They can also defer having a Contact page as well.

    It is necessary for our members to know what country a supplier is in, and what approximate area, and that is all we will insist on.
     
  12. CatVTTV

    CatVTTV Ultra Member Verified Member ECF Veteran

    Mar 26, 2009
    Tyne & Wear, UK
    Thank you rolygate, I am sure this will help new members a great deal.
     
  13. pcqueene

    pcqueene Senior Member Verified Member ECF Veteran

    Nov 19, 2009
    Quad Cities, IL
    Thank you so very much, Rolygate....you are most excellent. The locations are truly helpful for a newbie. :thumbs:
     
  14. MetalPrincess

    MetalPrincess Senior Member ECF Veteran

    Oct 18, 2009
    Canada
    I read ECF mostly on my cell phone...Ctrl+F isn't possible. I never bother trying to look for a suppliers forum because I'd have to slowly go through each name and hope I didn't miss it instead of scrolling close to it first (if they were alpha/location/etc sorted) .

    I'm sure it's written somewhere but I had no idea 'til I read it in this thread that the suppliers' forums were ranked by seniority. I thought they were just in a mess because of the server change and hadn't been cleaned up yet. :oops:
     
  15. rolygate

    rolygate Forum Manager Admin Verified Member ECF Veteran

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    So, we need to tell people that. Fair enough - obvious I guess. Dohh.

    Mobiles, Internet Exploder, Macs - my life is hell.


    Well it helps everyone but my little secret is I did it for my benefit - don't tell anyone.
     
  16. MetalPrincess

    MetalPrincess Senior Member ECF Veteran

    Oct 18, 2009
    Canada
    LOL...no IE or Macs here!!;) In Firefox, instead of Ctrl+F you can also type / then start typing to bring up the quickfind bar then use F3 (or Ctrl+G) to 'Find Next'. For those with tiny notebook/webbook keyboards the single keystrokes can be a lot easier.

    Adding the locations is GREAT!! Thank you!!
     
  17. olderthandirt

    olderthandirt Vaping Master Verified Member ECF Veteran

    Mar 28, 2009
    Willamette Valley, PNW
    Oh ho, thank you Metal Princess! I love keyboard shortcuts, the ones you just mentioned for FF are great, didn't know of them.
     
  18. pcqueene

    pcqueene Senior Member Verified Member ECF Veteran

    Nov 19, 2009
    Quad Cities, IL
    OK, it'll be our little secret! :sneaky:
     
  19. been2yrs

    been2yrs Full Member

    Dec 26, 2009
    chicago
  20. seminolewind

    seminolewind Ultra Member Verified Member ECF Veteran

    I didn't realize that they were in order of seniority. It should stay that way.
     
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