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Vg + distilled water only e-liquid?

Discussion in 'DIY E-Liquid' started by suhmedoh, Jul 13, 2012.

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  1. suhmedoh

    suhmedoh Full Member Verified Member

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    Okay so, I have acres to vg and distilled water, and I want to make an easy DIY eliquid for gaping when I don't want to waste my limited supply of flavors( I'm not made of money :p)
    is it possible to make a no flavor, no nicotine, vg based fluid, cut with distilled water so it works better in my 808 cattle/ clearomizers? I tried to make one that was like 75% vg, 15% Poland springs water(I know I know) and 15% oil based mint flavoring( I read some more and found out why this wouldn't really work). What I'm wondering is, is there a way I can make vapable fluid from just vg and distilled water? I'm looking for a cheap way to be able to cape with all my buddies in my dorm room without worrying about 4 people all chainvaping my good flavored stuff :p
     
  2. Joe Normal

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    1st: Nice typo there.
    2nd: Your percentage calculations are wrong. The maximum possible is 100%, you have 105%
    (75% +15% + 15% = 105%)
    3rd: Most flavors come in a PG solution/carrier, so except when you find a flavor producar that sells flavor in VG solutions/carriers, the answer to your question is "no". Why? Because the moment you add flavor, you have PG in the mix as the PG carries the flavor.


    BTW: Just asking for the case files...
    But why exactly do you want 15% of mint flavor?
    Seems way to crass for me.
     
  3. Clarkjs21

    Clarkjs21 Senior Member Verified Member ECF Veteran

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    I think hes asking if he can just make no nic, unflavored juice using VG and distilled water. The short answer is yes, you can. The only thing is that it might not taste the greatest but you 4 wont be able to see in your dorm room through the cloud of vapor that will be produced doing so. Also there will be next to no throat hit out of that mix
     
  4. AzPlumber

    AzPlumber Ultra Member Verified Member ECF Veteran

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    If your intent is to just make a simple liquid with VG & distilled water the answer is yes. You can also add a little flavor as the previous poster said. Some folks on a budget have also used store bought flavor extract (Watkins) with a little success. It won't be as flavorful as the concentrated flavorings we buy from TPA, FA, FW, Etc. but will give it some flavor and your Friends won't be vaping all your good stuff.
     
  5. Spazmelda

    Spazmelda Vaping Master Verified Member ECF Veteran

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    You can. No problem. I made some the other day and it worked fine. It even tasted a little sweet due to the VG. No throat hit at all, just smooth, slightly sweet vapor.
     
  6. suhmedoh

    suhmedoh Full Member Verified Member

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    Thanks for the replies, but how exactly would I go about this? Can someone just give me a vapable ratio of vg to distilled water, I have a syringe and would only be making a small test run, like a 10 ml solution to try it out. And my first attempt, I just measured the liquids in the syringes, put it all in a shot glass, then covered it in Saran wrap and shook it; can I just do that? And if someone could just give me a ratio that would work in an 808 ranger cartomizers without it getting burnt that'd be great; I'm down to my last two empty cartomizers :/

    Also sorry for spelling, I'm on my phone with auto correct
     
  7. Nrgaway

    Nrgaway Senior Member ECF Veteran

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    I am interested in a 100% VG no flavour vape as well. I currently vape 50/50 PG/VG unflavoured and I love it, but want to try 100% VG.

    I have 48% based VG nic, plus lots of 0% VG. I am hoping to make a final 12% nic by adding 5ml 48% VG, 14ML 0% VG and 1ML Distilled Water. From what I read I think 5% is what you need to add for water to dilute the thick VG mixture.

    Hopefully someone that knows can confirm this recipe.
     
  8. suhmedoh

    suhmedoh Full Member Verified Member

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    personally, I'm vaping 80% pure vg 20% pure distilled water, no flavor no nic, and it's working good in my Volt X2 clearomizer. I'm going to try 90% vg 10% distilled water next, but this works fine, atleast as a starting point for my DIY.
     
  9. FreshBreath

    FreshBreath Full Member

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    hi suhmedoh, i diy my juice at 100% vg, and played with different ratios adding distilled water to thin it out. you should do the same.

    so, i believe the answer your looking for is : 5-10% distilled water

    example: 10ml bottle(or syringe) at 10%

    9ml vg to 1ml distilled water

    hope this helps
     
  10. AzPlumber

    AzPlumber Ultra Member Verified Member ECF Veteran

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    Just remember that flavorings will thin your mixes further unless of course you are using vg based flavors.
     
  11. Malduk

    Malduk Super Member Verified Member ECF Veteran

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    VG based flavors? That exists? The only alternative to PG for flavor carrier I found was alcohol. But then again, I have no issues with PG and wasn't really paying attention. Still, VG based flavors would surprise me.
     
  12. AzPlumber

    AzPlumber Ultra Member Verified Member ECF Veteran

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    Yes there are a number of VG based flavors
     
  13. Malduk

    Malduk Super Member Verified Member ECF Veteran

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    Who sells those? Link?
     
  14. AzPlumber

    AzPlumber Ultra Member Verified Member ECF Veteran

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    Lorann Oils has a line called the Natural flavors and there are several others I don't remember off hand. If you are interested I could get you more info.

    eta: Faeries Finest is another company that has VG based flavors
     
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    Cyrus Vap Vaping Master Verified Member ECF Veteran

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    The hangsen line must have a pile of VG in them, they're ungodly thick for a flavor concentrate
     
  17. buffaloguy

    buffaloguy Ultra Member ECF Veteran

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    I have found that with 100%vg base you want to be around 75% to 80% vg/and the rest 20-25% should be a combination of your flavoring, distilled water, or any other additives like sweetener, lemon juice, vinegar, etc.

    So 75%-80%vg/25%-20% everything else. Stick to that and youll have very few issues with the juice vaping well across a variety of equipment. If you have any burnt/dry hits then a little distilled water should fix it. Warming your vg juice in a hot cup of water for a few minutes before use can also help thick vg juices.
     
  18. suhmedoh

    suhmedoh Full Member Verified Member

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    I've been using 90% VG 20% DW... it works great! it's also slightly sweet, it's very enjoyable, thick vapor and everything. I love it!
     
  19. STVNMR

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    Very easily done. It takes a bit of experimentation to find the right balance of water and VG base for your particular device, but it's no challenge at all.
     
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