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Water Vapor and Lungs

Discussion in 'Health, Safety and Vaping' started by paulyc44, Sep 15, 2009.

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  1. paulyc44

    paulyc44 Senior Member Verified Member ECF Veteran

    Sep 8, 2009
    I have an interesting question...

    Since our lungs are meant to inhale air, what is the effect on the lungs to inhaling moist air (water vapor). My initial thought is that it keeps the lungs moist which is good for you no?
  2. brownbrown4

    brownbrown4 Super Member Verified Member ECF Veteran

    Jun 9, 2009
    San Diego
    what water vapor are you talking about
    where do you live?
    people live in florida wiht 98% humidity .
  3. vapoholic

    vapoholic Full Member ECF Veteran

    Sep 7, 2009
    kenosha, wi.
    no different than breathing humidity in the air, taking an inhaler for asthma, or doing a breathing treatment such as with albuterol.
  4. paulyc44

    paulyc44 Senior Member Verified Member ECF Veteran

    Sep 8, 2009
    Ha! I live in Manhattan, so I inhale much worse than humid air, in the Summer.

    Vaping is a concentrated amount of water vapor entering the lungs, especially the clouds I am making. So I am interested to know what effect is has on the lungs since this is not a natural thing to do - know what I mean?
  5. Bandit

    Bandit Ultra Member ECF Veteran

    Actually, we're inhaling mostly propelyne glycol, which can dry out your lungs. Some members have had concerns about dry spots in their lungs from time to time.

    Inhaling ANYTHING into your lungs is bad, but our vapor is safer than our old cigarette smoke, so it's kind of like the lesser of two evils.

    I am looking forward to the day I do not rely on inhaling anything into my lungs!
  6. paulyc44

    paulyc44 Senior Member Verified Member ECF Veteran

    Sep 8, 2009
    So that would mean that vaping is NOT good for you by any measure. It's less bad in fact. That's not comforting:(
  7. Bandit

    Bandit Ultra Member ECF Veteran

    Not saying that vaping specifically is "bad", but inhaling anything except oxygen (even oxygen is bad if it is too much) is bad for your lungs.

    You went from inhaling tar and 4000 chemicals including cyanide with cigarettes to less than 40 chemicals with the worst being nicotine and PG with the e-cig. You traded up for sure ;)
  8. Bandit

    Bandit Ultra Member ECF Veteran

    If the PG thought bothers you, you can always go for vegetable glycerine juices.
  9. breakfastchef

    breakfastchef Moved On

    Feb 12, 2009
    I would wager a guess that inhaling PG is much safer than sucking on the tailpipe of an automobile. With all the toxins we inhale everyday, PG trumps tobacco smoke anyday. No scientific evidence to back up my comment, but eliminating the cancer-causing compounds from burning tobacco can be nothing but reducing the harm we were doing to ourselves as analog smokers.
  10. kathy11515

    kathy11515 Senior Member ECF Veteran

    May 2, 2009
    Northlake, Illinois
    PG is the first ingredient in my allergy spray medicine. I inhale that, and of course it is FDA approved, so no worries- right?
  11. Bandit

    Bandit Ultra Member ECF Veteran

    Or so the FDA would have us believe!

    Grab the tinfoil hats..... :D
  12. Nestran

    Nestran Senior Member ECF Veteran

    Jul 29, 2009
    Rhode Island
    keep in mind that the PG is giving something for the water vapor to cling to thus creating the plume. I would think that the amount of actual vapor is the same as inhaling steam if you have a sinus condition.

    As to safe: I liken it to we were all driving cars with no seatbelts and now we wear them. Still not as safe as not driving at all but certainly safer than driving without the seatbelt.

  13. Moonflame

    Moonflame Ultra Member ECF Veteran

    You can look up the results of a bunch of studies on the effects of inhaling PG going back for the past 60 years at
  14. sunkissedbeach

    sunkissedbeach Full Member ECF Veteran

    I have been vaping for two days and today I have heartburn ( it got really bad after I ate some meatloaf)
    It is gone now I used a pepcid Complete.

    Anyone else?

    Using the PG.
  15. SLDS181

    SLDS181 Ultra Member ECF Veteran

    Aug 11, 2009
    Western NJ
    sunkissed, answered in your other post.

    Its most likely the result of quitting smoking, much like bleeding gums (increased bloodflow). Give it a few days.

    I have acid reflux, and after the first week, things have improved DRASTICALLY for me. Now into week 3, and I haven't had heartburn in about a week and a half (spicy food - my fault).
  16. sunkissedbeach

    sunkissedbeach Full Member ECF Veteran

    Thank you so much for the support. :)
  17. paladinx

    paladinx Super Member Verified Member ECF Veteran

    Dec 3, 2008
    People generally agree, or at least think. that these ecig devices are safer than cigarettes. Now if cigarettes were a new invention lets say. And no one really knew much about them, no studies were really done. You wouldnt probably know about the great dangers till maybe at least 20 or 30 years from now. When chain smokers ended up with lung problems. So if e cigs are less harmful than that. How long do you think it might take for us to start seeing any potentially harmful side effects from vaping?
  18. Moonflame

    Moonflame Ultra Member ECF Veteran

    The only thing I'd be concerned about is the flavoring. People have been inhaling large amounts of PG and VG for long periods of time and it's been studied a lot. People have been inhaling nicotine for years and years and even doctors will tell you it's not the nicotine in cigs that is a problem. The only thing that hasn't been studied is inhaling the small amount of stuff that's in the flavoring. Most of the content of flavoring is PG too.
  19. MichaelSettle

    MichaelSettle New Member

    Feb 16, 2010
    but isn't pneumonia just fluid in the lungs, basically? and if this is so, then wouldn't purposefully pulling water vapor into the lungs eventually lead to walking pneumonia? Just curious, because people get pneumonia without knowing it all the time and die suddenly. Please don't think I am trying to be crass or argue against it, I just really have thought about using this product and am trying to get all the facts.
  20. Katmar

    Katmar Vaping Master ECF Veteran

    Sep 19, 2009
    Pittsburgh, Pa
    PG actually is a drying agent.
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