And just before the Great Society, Medicare and Guns & Butter got a head of steam on.Johnson got started all Kennedy's programs and started a few of his own. Smoking was allowed in the White House.
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We need a bigger boat.
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All those images are obviously photo shopped. It is impossible to believe that smoking was done by all those people in all those places and humanity is still alive.
Impossible, I tell you.
Impossible, I tell you.
Well, they're all dead except Obama. And he's not looking so healthy of late. And their wives and nearly all of their cabinet members are dead from second hand smoke.
Yeah, mine too.
Honestly, I liked being naive a whole lot better.
I was a good sheep back then.
I bet both of you were at least getting suspicious of CDC when the 3rd hand smoke scam was rolled out.
I'm old enough to remember smoking sections, but not old enough to have ever smoked in one indoors. I have heard of the concept of 3rd hand smoke, but I was not aware it was actually an idea backed by the CDC, I just figured it was a bored ninny that came up with it, and then like most other things people just accepted it as fact.
I think 3rd hand smoke lie started in 2006.My becoming a vaper preceded the third-hand smoke garbage by a few years.
We all know that secondhand smoke actually exists, but many of us know that the reported dangers associated with it are questionable (at best) or deceptive (at worst). Given all I know about politics of vaping/smoking, I'm thinking we all realize third hand smoke exists, but may disagree on how much of an issue it actually is. I would think there would be relation between what one views about secondhand-smoke and what one thinks about thirdhand smoke. I could even see some people thinking that third-hand is worse than secondhand, and possible that it is even worse than firsthand, though I recognize that is a very huge stretch to make.
The only thing that's been successfully stretched is our tolerance. Despite all the anger and justified indignation to an objective observer I think we all still look like collective victims of Stockholm Syndrome, if only a bit louder in our denials (than most).
Believe the biggest harm perpetrated on [us as] smokers is totally psychological.
Good luck all.
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Yes, that, and financial, which can lead to further psychological and physical harm.
Being too tolerant of being abused easily becomes habit.
Yeah, I'm aware of that, but talking about the effects of smoking is a liar's game.
Here locally we had an excellent Chinese restaurant. They kept a smoking area toward the front of their dining section, where there was HVAC exhaust venting.
They were going against what the state had mandated. State had said no smoking at all in restaurants. For about a year these lovely Chinese people snubbed their noses at the state.
I recall a few occasions of having an after dinner smoke in their restaurant. One day some ladies were sitting toward the back of the restaurant as I fired up. One of them said loudly enough to be heard that all smokers ought to go burn somewhere not nice. My wife suggested I put it out. I did not but rather enjoyed looking over at the sign, "Smoking Section". I smiled at the lady with my lips around the cigarette.
My opinion of it was that it was the restaurant owner's choice to allow for a smoking section. A smoker then ought to have been free to enjoyed the smoking section. Now, I go to places and see the cigarette ban sign with an obvious silhouette of CE4 on an eGo battery with the letter E on one end. Below, "This includes electronic cigarettes". So, I oblige and tuck my mod in my pocket, pulling it back out once we leave.
I do not mind being considerate and tolerant up to a point. If we are outside in the open air do not expect me to oblige you by not vaping or smoking. I will vape or smoke then as I chose, in the open air. Granted, I'll be courteous and move away from elders/infirms and infants/toddlers that is only common courtesy.
We need a lot more of it in our world/s.
Some folks just lack a healthy attitude…mebe, there ought to be a law. [sarc font off]
Good luck all.
Good luck all.
Funny thing is my attitude can get pretty unhealthy too, but generally only when I'm nic-deprived.
Well it seems a whole bunch kicked in for GA which is outstanding. I still don't know what exactly happened or what the 2-3 mystery remaining pages of proposals may imply…but at least a whole bunch seems went in and shook the bushes. Now if only folks in FL would open an eye from their deep slumber, I'm hopin'. Meet ya here when the next bell rings.
Good luck.
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