so I've gone a week without dipping. A few years ago I tried vape but abandoned it within the day. Happy that I found this community as it opened up a world that makes it not just an alternative but a craft. That's the draw- thats it's not just a replacement but an interesting hobby you can approach from different angles-it's more involved and intimate than patches or gum. So just a thank you to those who maintain this site and to the folks who offer their assistance.