what is the shelf life of eliquid?

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  1. flobiwan

    flobiwan Senior Member ECF Veteran

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    Does anybody know this? How long will bottles of eliquid last sitting in a drawer? Will they lose potency? Do they "spoil"? Just curious as i have some old bottles i got a couple of years ago.
     
  2. Wishdog

    Wishdog Super Member ECF Veteran

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    Sure, the efficacy of the nicotine will diminish, or really the nicotine will break down. The liquid's "journey toward entropy" isn't going to seem like a spoiled food. It'll just get blander and blander. Since the flavors are much more complex than the nicotine, the taste should go before the efficacy.

    Edited to add: I don't know nothin' 'bout nothing' but I am a strong believer in entropy.
     
  3. RedForeman

    RedForeman Super Member Verified Member ECF Veteran

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    Odd. I find the flavor to get stronger and "darker" with age. Seems like the juices get marginally better tasting after a week or two. Then, over months, they seem to get thicker and lose their "brightness" if that makes any sense.

    For example I just recently revisited a bottle of orange creamsicle that's almost two years old. It was 50/50 VG/PG in 36mg nic. It has lost most of it's sweetness. Still orangey and tasty, yet substantially different than I remember when it was new. Also makes a much thicker vapor now. Could be some evaporation or breakdown of content. Since it's not nasty tasting or making me ill, I'll keep using it until it does or I run out. I've also considered getting some straight PG to cut it a little and see how that turns out. VG would just make it too thick and unvapeable for me.
     
  4. potholerepairman

    potholerepairman Ultra Member Verified Member ECF Veteran

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    In my house a bottle of juice sitting in 80 degrees 60% humidity, anything over a year will become unvapeable to me.I just finally decided to fridge some juices in bottles to test the other end of juice storage thought process, so in a year or so will know which works better.
     
  5. SpringzVz

    SpringzVz Senior Member Verified Member ECF Veteran

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    Yes ejuice goes bad... In my experience it is very evident when it does. Some gel pretty thick and get a bad flavor. Some just go bland and nicotine shelf life I have seen through vendors expressed as 1 year in good storage conditions ie cool dark place.
     
  6. anavidfan

    anavidfan Vaping Master Verified Member ECF Veteran

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    well, here goes my two cents, again not being a vaporer for too long I can only go from the chemical end of it. PG is much more subseptable to evaporation than VG. VG is a thicker ingredient so it gets more concentrated and gels. PG from what others say on the DIY juice talk is what carries the flavor, that is why at the better sites when they state 100% VG they will put in a disclaimer that is not actually 100% as they need a certain amount of pg to bind the flavor, if not vg and the extracts of flavor would separate. THe lack of flavor you find might be that the PG that held flavor evaporated . Im also assuming that means that if they use organic or 100% nat flavors that eventually they being natural might have a shorter shelf life. Ive seen some people say they have juices for years and still good. Maybe those are the artificially flavored juices with high pg content.
     
  7. Lewis

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    The label on the liquids I've got say to use within 24 months of opening. They're 66%PG/33%VG, if that makes a difference.
     
  8. Sicarius

    Sicarius Super Member Verified Member ECF Veteran

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    I keep my nic base in the freezer and mix up 36mg with fresh VG/PG when I run short.
     
  9. flobiwan

    flobiwan Senior Member ECF Veteran

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    Well, it doesn't sound like it'll kill me. That's good. All mine are 100% PG so it sounds like the flavor may still be OK. Thanks for your input everyone.
     
  10. XCypher

    XCypher Senior Member ECF Veteran

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    Couple of questions, 1) If any of you are storing eliquid in a freezer does it actually freeze solid? and 2) Would this be bad in a seperation/breakdown chem sorta way?
     
  11. base234

    base234 Ultra Member ECF Veteran

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    If you have juice that's older than 6 months, you obviously don't like it or you're ordering too much juice. Pay it forward or give it away in the Treasure Chest. I have a few samples I've been saving that are about a year old. My little science project...
     
  12. Quitter

    Quitter Super Member ECF Veteran

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    I bought a gallon of 100% PG from Tractor Supply about a year and a half ago. I've been using it to DIY and cut down a bottle of 100mg nic juice. I've noticed that it seems thicker and has been gumming up my cartos and tanks. The vapor is pretty bad too. I can only assume that it's going bad and am going to stop using it. I have a friend who uses only premixed PG juices in small quantities (10ml bottles) and we have identical TW Tornado Tank devices. Hers hits and works beautifully! Mine takes twice the pull time to get the same amt of vapor and the carto seems to get progressively gummed up. I can only asume it's the PG I'm using. So I just ordered 120ml of unflavored nic juice and 120ml of PG from Bluemist (to mix together for an 18mg base to add flavor). I sure hope this fresh stuff will do the trick!! I'm a long time vaper and have become very discouraged because the quality of the vape has gotten so bad!

    Someone touched on it earlier, but what is the conventional wisdom on storage? Even though I'm a pretty heavy vaper, It'll take me some time to go through this 240ml that I got.How should I store it to preserve it the best??
     
  13. bzmotoninja83

    bzmotoninja83 ECF Live Chat Moderator Verified Member ECF Veteran

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    Fridge seems like the best option. or, premix some that you can keep in the fridge and some that you'll keep in the freezer. once you finish one bottle, rotate stock and put one in the fridge.




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  14. mwa102464

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    Store your Nic base in a big glass bottle and in the freezer, it thrives in the cold. I Transfer mine right to a glass bottle, and I also fill 3 x 30ml bottles and always take from and use the 30ml bottles first, once all 3 30ml bottles are empty I then fill them again from the big bottle. This way my main big bottle gets opened much less so less oxygen gets to it. So far in almost 3yrs this system has proven to work best for me.

    PG & VG by them selves last about 2 yrs, VG can last a bit less then 2 more like 1.5 from my results.

    However once you make a juice the flavorings are what end up going bad the fastest, the fridge has proven to store my DIY and purchased juice the best. I store my juice in the fridge till I'm ready to use a bottle then take it out and it stays out, but new bottles of juice not in use I keep in the fridge always. Just how I do it anyways :)
     
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