I'm a lil over 2 months in & still vape 18. But I from 6-12 at night otherwise I'll never go to sleep.
What strength e-liquid do you VAPE?
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I smoke between 18 and 24mg haven't noticed a big difference between them to be honest
I can't remember if I posted this here or elsewhere, I hang out in several forums.
I think that the devices and delivery methods make a big difference, having moved from cigalikes all the way to pulsed vw and either vivi novas, rebuildable drippers and genesis style atties.
In the UK if you want something between 6 mg and zero you have to make it yourself or dilute, there's nothing between 0 mg and 6 mg. Here it goes, in ready-made juice, 0,6, 12, 18, 24, plus a few sold at 36 and two (I think) at 45 mg/ml.
The highest base nicotine that is legal to buy in the UK without a poisons license is 75 mg/ml, but nobody would vape that! Intellicig (bought at the end of last year by BAT) have been running clinical trials in hope of getting an MA (which would be needed for over 2 mg in 0.5 ml if the EU draft Tobacco Control Directive passes as is) and they have proved it is safe to vape 45 mg/ml, that's the highest they sell. Here Flavourart sell 45mg/ml as well, and a few use it, some only when they know they have to go a long time without vaping as most seem to vape a lot less at that strength.
I was close to a chain-smoker, one every 15 minutes, sometimes less. At 18 mg or less I'm a chain vaper so I use two strengths, 24 mg/ml in tnhe morning, especially when I first get up, and 18 mg/ml later in the day. It seems that once I've topped up with the higher nic, I can drop to 18 mg without chain vaping.
I have a feeling that it would be hard to find out how many puffs anybody takes in any single period for the simple fact that people don't count. Studies have been based on cigarettes, 10 puffs in 15 minutes, but vaping doesn't work like that, there is no beginning or end, a pv doesn't stop working after 15 minute or an hour (unless it's a tiny cigalike with a tiny cart, very small cigalikes can have a 1 hour battery life). So I put 3 ml in and that lasts me all day, or most of it. My battery lasts a little over a day.
That means I can say how much I get through in a 24 hour period, but I'm not vaping for 24 hours. Sometimes I could be vaping for 20 minutes, other times not at all for an hour, and you have to subtract sleep plus times when vaping doesn't work well (a vamo while driving is awkward) or not allowed.
I think that poll-based studies should be based on how many mls used in 24 hours, plus strength. I suspect that the lower the strength the higher the intake, which would even out to equivalent to the number of cigarettes that used to be smoked.
Also I think it should be remembered that there are different types of vapers. Some use it as a form of NRT with the aim of cutting nicotine to zero, some vape as healthier and cheaper than smoking and have no plan to cut down or stop, plus a large number (maybe the silent majority who aren't on forums) are dual fuel, they vape either to reduce the number of cigarettes smoked or in places where smoking is banned.
I was in that group, all I wanted to do was save money and improve health by cutting down on the cigarettes smoked, but when I bought high-performance gear I found I was missing out on the cigarettes without noticing it. As long as I have a pack I'm happy not to light one, but if I have none I want to smoke. I discovered that recently when I decided to get rid of my last pack as I wasn't smoking them. I became obsessed with smoking and bought more within a few hours, actually smoked six of them until I was back to normal.
I don't know if that's my personal weird psychological quirk or if others feel the need to possess a few cigarettes 'just in case', that owning them gives the freedom not to smoke them. I also don't know if that peculiarity is caused by the decades of anti-smoking propaganda as I've always been an instictive rebel against being told what I can and cannot do if it harms nobody else.
I think that the devices and delivery methods make a big difference, having moved from cigalikes all the way to pulsed vw and either vivi novas, rebuildable drippers and genesis style atties.
In the UK if you want something between 6 mg and zero you have to make it yourself or dilute, there's nothing between 0 mg and 6 mg. Here it goes, in ready-made juice, 0,6, 12, 18, 24, plus a few sold at 36 and two (I think) at 45 mg/ml.
The highest base nicotine that is legal to buy in the UK without a poisons license is 75 mg/ml, but nobody would vape that! Intellicig (bought at the end of last year by BAT) have been running clinical trials in hope of getting an MA (which would be needed for over 2 mg in 0.5 ml if the EU draft Tobacco Control Directive passes as is) and they have proved it is safe to vape 45 mg/ml, that's the highest they sell. Here Flavourart sell 45mg/ml as well, and a few use it, some only when they know they have to go a long time without vaping as most seem to vape a lot less at that strength.
I was close to a chain-smoker, one every 15 minutes, sometimes less. At 18 mg or less I'm a chain vaper so I use two strengths, 24 mg/ml in tnhe morning, especially when I first get up, and 18 mg/ml later in the day. It seems that once I've topped up with the higher nic, I can drop to 18 mg without chain vaping.
I have a feeling that it would be hard to find out how many puffs anybody takes in any single period for the simple fact that people don't count. Studies have been based on cigarettes, 10 puffs in 15 minutes, but vaping doesn't work like that, there is no beginning or end, a pv doesn't stop working after 15 minute or an hour (unless it's a tiny cigalike with a tiny cart, very small cigalikes can have a 1 hour battery life). So I put 3 ml in and that lasts me all day, or most of it. My battery lasts a little over a day.
That means I can say how much I get through in a 24 hour period, but I'm not vaping for 24 hours. Sometimes I could be vaping for 20 minutes, other times not at all for an hour, and you have to subtract sleep plus times when vaping doesn't work well (a vamo while driving is awkward) or not allowed.
I think that poll-based studies should be based on how many mls used in 24 hours, plus strength. I suspect that the lower the strength the higher the intake, which would even out to equivalent to the number of cigarettes that used to be smoked.
Also I think it should be remembered that there are different types of vapers. Some use it as a form of NRT with the aim of cutting nicotine to zero, some vape as healthier and cheaper than smoking and have no plan to cut down or stop, plus a large number (maybe the silent majority who aren't on forums) are dual fuel, they vape either to reduce the number of cigarettes smoked or in places where smoking is banned.
I was in that group, all I wanted to do was save money and improve health by cutting down on the cigarettes smoked, but when I bought high-performance gear I found I was missing out on the cigarettes without noticing it. As long as I have a pack I'm happy not to light one, but if I have none I want to smoke. I discovered that recently when I decided to get rid of my last pack as I wasn't smoking them. I became obsessed with smoking and bought more within a few hours, actually smoked six of them until I was back to normal.
I don't know if that's my personal weird psychological quirk or if others feel the need to possess a few cigarettes 'just in case', that owning them gives the freedom not to smoke them. I also don't know if that peculiarity is caused by the decades of anti-smoking propaganda as I've always been an instictive rebel against being told what I can and cannot do if it harms nobody else.
I started with 18mg/ml but could not avoid the last 4-5 cigs a day until I went with 24mg/ml. After a month I reduced to 18mg/ml and that was fine until 3 months ago when I reduced it to 16mg/ml.
I am now using 14mg/ml except on the RBAs where I cannot use more than 10mg/ml without over nicing.
I am now using 14mg/ml except on the RBAs where I cannot use more than 10mg/ml without over nicing.
I started out on October of 2011 on 24 mg. But ECBlends charges a leeeeetle bit extra
for 24 mg, so I decided to try 18 mg to dodge the up-tick in price. Don't notice any difference at all. Too chicken to go for a lower nic level and I don't really feel the need to. 18 mg works just fine!
for 24 mg, so I decided to try 18 mg to dodge the up-tick in price. Don't notice any difference at all. Too chicken to go for a lower nic level and I don't really feel the need to. 18 mg works just fine!
When I started on the mini ecigs I was drawn straight to the High nicotine carts and have stuck to 24 mg or 2.4% e-liquid ever since.
I like nicotine and don't know if I want to dial it back anytime soon.
Matt
I like nicotine and don't know if I want to dial it back anytime soon.
Matt
I had to choose 11mg because there is no option for 10 or 12 mg. I've never found an 11 mg juice. Didn't know they existed.
I started at 12mg and went to 18mg. I smoked moderately (5-8 a day) for many years but it was usually camel filters, camel nons (not in a long time), or Camel 99's (my brand before switching to vape). I'll still do a lighter flavor at 12mg for a morning vape, but want the stronger nic at night. It seems I vape more than I smoked. I'm convinced vaping does'nt nic your body up quite like real cigs, because if I smoked the Camels like I've been vaping I'd pass out. Since I do higher VG ratios I need some nic in there to avoid that "vaping air" feeling.
When I need to vape as an analog replacement I vape 24. I'm considering buying juice that is actually higher than that. Any suggestions? But when I'm wanting a nice relaxing vape like before bed, I'll vape 18.
At this I've been nearly two full years without any except for what samples have been tossed my way by vendors or when making comparisons of a particular flavor vapes with or without nicotine being present. I don't miss it any.
Unable to select multiple strengths.
I use 12mg for my Nautilus tanks and 6mg for my Atlantis sub ohm
I use 12mg for my Nautilus tanks and 6mg for my Atlantis sub ohm
Started @ 16mg and increased to 24mg. I noticed less vape time and e liquid consumption. Haven't changed for 2 yrs. now. Vape ~ 2mL/ day.
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