jup! This is why I've been asking legislators, not to JUST support Cole Bishop but also to create a statute that either requires the FDA to put vaping under a regulatory framework other than tobacco, or.....simply move it to another dept's jurisdiction. The only one I've suggested as a possible is Consumer Safety. Hope more will do the same.
yeah I have too and that's great, but was recently watching PB and Dimitri, and according to them, even Rep. Cole who sponsored the bill has said that 2058 is essentially dead. There's been no movement at all on it, and it's much better to advocate for the Cole Bishop Amendment and even better to ask that it be removed from the FDA, or force the FDA to not regulate it under tobacco. Dr Michael Siegel who did a vid really breaking down the deeming, also says we need to urge em to move it, or force FDA to do it differently, that we could be shooting ourselves in the foot so to speak if all we do is ask them to support a bill or amendment. Some folks do a ton of advocacy, but many will say, Ok, I wrote an email (which will get ignored) asking them to support x,y,z. and think they've done all they can do. That's why I add the rest of it when I call my Congressmen.
To me there are a lot of "Ifs, Ands or Buts" Myself I am going to try to have my hardware backed up well enough to last at least 5 years or more. Might have to change my vaping style at some point because I only use TC at present and that relies on a board that could give out. I have mostly YiHi but my backups are mostly Joyetech but I have 2 brand new SX'x also. My others are between 1 year and 8 months and have never had a problem with them. I really think or hope that there are so many people vaping in this country that have quit smoking using it plus it seems like a lot of studies that show it is 95% less harmful then smoking they might see the error in their ways. I would like to see the answers they give to the questions that were asked by the Homeland Security dept which they have till the end of May to answer. Why don't they ban cigarettes till BT can prove that they are not harmful?
thanks hun.......but also (if you haven't already) take a look at the actions tab here.
I do have the complete dvd set hehehe Got em a long time ago for any future grandkids I might have. Is there something I'm just not seeing about this one?LoveVanilla said:
thanks hun.......but also (if you haven't already) take a look at the actions tab here.
Actions - H.R.2058 - 114th Congress (2015-2016): FDA Deeming Authority Clarification Act of 2015
It was introduced 4/28/2015 and 3 days later it was referred to the committee on health, so next week will be 13 months since anything has happened with it. 4 Texas representatives (only 1 of which I've ever heard of) are co-sponsors. Unless the house does something with it, I can't ask the Congressmen I call to support it. I can see why the author is saying it's dead in the water.
Also......I do speak fluent gibberish, but don't understand a word politicanese but it seems to be saying that they're supporting moving the predicate date to early 2011 (if I read it right, which is highly unlikely) lol That's better than 2007, but not as good as 2015. I'm getting early 2011 since it says 21 months after the Family Smoking Prevention and Tobacco Control Act and that was enacted May 2009 (jup had to look that up) lol
It's great that folks are co-sponsoring it.....but that just seems to be so they could say they did........they sure aren't making any move to push it along or do anything with it. Maybe it has to go through a ton of committees or something before they can vote on it, I dunno. Maybe I need to go back and re-watch school house rock's "I'm just a Bill"
yeah I like stand alones too, and I'm not against 2058, but I'm just not calling 36 reps I know nothing about. Well, 32 I reckin, since 4 have come on as co sponsors. Might call those 4 and tell them to light a fire under the other 32 lol I'll google that other thing later. Haven't slept in a couple days, so not firing on all thrusters right now. But I do need to find out when 2058 would actually bring the predicate date up to.
oh kewl, I got one right! lol Just to make sure ya know. I'm not knocking 2058. Was just tossing it out about what the author has (supposedly) said about it. I do think it's essential though that we ask/demand far more than this though. The FDA has to be made to get rid of so much that is in the deeming. I'm sure we all feel the same. And so much progress has been made between 2011 and 2015 in mods and toppers. Appreciate your time hun to talk about this.
oh kewl, I got one right! lol Just to make sure ya know. I'm not knocking 2058. Was just tossing it out about what the author has (supposedly) said about it. I do think it's essential though that we ask/demand far more than this though. The FDA has to be made to get rid of so much that is in the deeming. I'm sure we all feel the same. And so much progress has been made between 2011 and 2015 in mods and toppers. Appreciate your time hun to talk about this.
As to sleep, yeah, been tryin.......you know this just happens sometimes. Thanks
