when people quote my posts and tell me I am wrong I have every right to respond.If you dont want a response then dont quote me.
I asked a simple question why is vaping at 200 watts unsafe and so far all I got was "because we say it is" and "because you might have a short".Every single day this myth keeps getting continued on this forum and there is 0 data, yes, no one has posted any hard eveidence that 32 amps is outside the safe range of the battery.You say it is but have NOTHING to support this.
What exactly would satisfy you? Do you want tests that prove that excessive heat damages the battery? Do you want tests that prove that these batteries generate excessive heat when run significantly higher than their continuous discharge amp rating (Or even slightly below their amp rating)
How about a single 2 second 40A pulse killing a battery?
Notice the green line on that chart? One 2 second pulse and the battery is dead.
Is that not enough? Then read some of Mooch's blogs. He's tested dozens if not hundreds of these batteries and has measured the temperatures they produce. Even at just 25A discharges the vast majority are exceeding 100C temperature, and that absolutely will damage the battery. Continuing to discharge batteries at this rate will result in eventual failure. The battery MIGHT simply stop accepting a charge, or it MIGHT vent, or it MIGHT even explode. Regardless, it WILL fail.
Here...
List of Battery Tests | E-Cigarette Forum
Do you believe that batteries that short out will never vent or explode? What exactly is a short? A continuous discharge with little to no resistance, resulting in an excessive amp drain, right? Isn't that precisely the same thing as we are discussing?
Also keep in mind that the 18650 has been around long before vaping,and been used in power tools, drills and such, are used much closer to vaping than a continuous discharge.Short, hard, high amp discharges and sure there may be some incidents,but for the most part cordless hand tools are being used safely
That's because cordless hand tools are designed with protective circuitry that makes it impossible to exceed the amp limit of the batteries inside them.
If you take the time to look at the data one of the parameters is a 65 amp burst for 5 seconds.this would be roughly the same as a 32.5 amp 10 second burst
edit...If I remember right it was the 45amp burst that was 5 sec,sorry I have like 3 data sheets I'm looking at
So, your claimed 32.5 amp 10 second burst is really a 22.5 amp 10 second burst, right?
And out of curiosity, does this data sheet you're looking at happen to show what happens when you push a 10 second 30amp burst through your 20A batteries a thousand times? Or is it just a single burst with no data on the resulting damage to the battery, and how much damaged is caused by continuous busts at that amp range?
How about we reverse your little game here. Do you actually have ANYTHING that shows that it is safe to exceed the amp limit by 50% or more for 5-10 seconds at a time on a regular basis, and not just one or two short bursts? Can you back YOUR claims up?
