Why Vapers are getting a BAD NAME.

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  1. LEDBETTER122

    LEDBETTER122 Senior Member ECF Veteran

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    I started vaping about 6 months ago; I am now completely winged off "Analog" cigarettes. I am glad that there is a Safer alternative to smoking, but I always hear and see complaints about E cigarette users. Now I treat my E-Cig as I would if it were a "Analog", I don't smoke in Walmarts or in Restaurants, because even though it's not a "Real" cigarette I find it disrespectful to others around you (Who don't smoke).

    Getting to my story, today I took my 2 month old son and daughter (Twins) for their check up and shots. Me and my girlfriend were sitting in the lobby with around 5 other people with their children and infants with them. I noticed this woman sitting across the room bringing her jacket pocket up to her mouth (trying to be sneaky I guess), and exhaled a big plume of Vapor.

    I of course got extremely POed, and said something to the woman, how it was disrespectful with all these Infants sitting within 10 feet of her "Vaping".

    I just think it's crazy how disrespectful some people get with the whole "It's not a real cigarette, so I can smoke it when and where I want".
     
  2. Caridwen

    Caridwen ECF Moderator Senior Moderator Verified Member ECF Veteran

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    Moving to vaping in public

    Kindly keep this topic civil.

    Thank you.
     
  3. Iffy

    Iffy Vaping Master Verified Member ECF Veteran

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    Rocketpunk Vaping Master ECF Veteran

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    There is no second-hand vapor and infants will never, ever, ever remember that experience. She was harming no one and attempted to be stealthy about it. Now, getting caught is not stealthy "enough", but to have another vaper call her out...

    Rudeness or not, there is no need to get upset. That woman never knew you, never met you, never interacted with you in your entire life up until that point. And yet you feel the right to interject yourself into her life? She "did something" to "piss you off", and now you have the right to enter her world and tell her what she's doing wrong?

    Dude, face it, you're you, everyone else is everyone else, and not everyone's going to be or agree exactly like you. This applies to more than just vaping:

    DEAL WITH IT.
     
  5. uba egar320

    uba egar320 Vaping Master Verified Member ECF Veteran

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    The whole "vape anywhere" attitude will be the undoing of ecigs.

    I've vaped since 2009..if someone blew a cloud around my child, I'd say something..Especially in a doc's office. WTH? That's pretty douchey imo.

    As a matter of fact, I think not saying anything to someone that is doing something along these lines is..well- cowardly.

    Go vape in the bathroom/hallway/elevator/outside..where ever. Point being, people are never going to accept folks blowing clouds of vape in certain places. Period.

    You can be as militant about vaping as you want..but your "habit" shouldn't invade other's space. When it does, don't be shocked to hear about it from them.

    edit:lol at Mr. Doughnuts..peace out
     
  6. Vermonster13

    Vermonster13 Vaping Master Verified Member ECF Veteran

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    You have no idea what she was vaping and with so little science still done its best to err on the side of caution. We are at a very precarious time for vaping.
     
  7. Don Robertson

    Don Robertson Super Member Verified Member ECF Veteran

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    And should those folks EVER get an opportunity to vote on a BAN of e-vaporizers ...... how ya think they will lean?

    Did others in the room here you? Add 'em to the list.

    Way behind already, huh?

    Senile Old Man Don
     
  8. flbutterfly1

    flbutterfly1 Ultra Member ECF Veteran

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    I also get offended that someone does not simply have enough will power to wait to vape. I had an incident in walmart just a few weeks ago in the chip isle woman and man passing an ego back and forth between them vaping all over the store. They had a 2 yr old in the cart but that is not what offended me it was the fact that they should have vaped, smoked or used their nicotine product outside the store. It is not the idea that vapor is going to hurt anyone just the fact that they were invading others personal space. I don't vape in people's homes unless they do. Last time I checked walmart is not a vape or smoking lounge it is a store. I also find it disgusting that some people bring their monkeys or dogs into the grocery part of walmart. If I wanted to pet your damn animals I would come to your house.
     
  9. DetraMental

    DetraMental Vaping Master ECF Veteran

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    If she'd have held the vape in and let it dissolve there instead of blowing out a plume would you have still been as peeved?
     
  10. LEDBETTER122

    LEDBETTER122 Senior Member ECF Veteran

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    I probably would not have minded it, if she would have held it in.

    There are such few studies about e-cigs and No long term studies, to prove that it is actually 100% safe.

    Heck people probably thought it was safe at one point to start their cars in a closed garage, not knowing the exhaust actually had carbon monoxide in it.

    The point is if you can’t wait 15 minutes without vaping while your in Wal-Mart or in a restaurant, get some nicorette or something.
     
  11. ruet

    ruet Super Member Verified Member ECF Veteran

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    So which is it? I get offended merely being in the presence of other humans. What, with the CO2 emissions, the flatulence, halitosis, colds, flu's and any other number of personal space invaders. I also get offended that someone does not simply have enough will power to not shop at Walmart.
     
  12. Steamix

    Steamix Super Member ECF Veteran

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    Opening a second front in the warzone ?

    ANTZ vs. vapers.
    Anywhere-I-want-to-vapers vs. exercise-some-restraint-vapers.

    Divide and conquer.

    If vapers are having a go at each other it'll make it easier for those parties completely opposed to vaping.

    This in-your-face-attitude ( and that means both parties in the opening argument ) isn't helping anybody.

    A polite inquiry about the wisdom of vaping in this specific location might have yielded a better result than a confrontational course.

    Vaping's got more than enough battlefields to fight on, I see litlle point in causing additional aggravation.

    But heck, me's jes' a relaxed vaper guided by optimized personal energy management - some lesser educated might call it utter laziness ;) :

    Frowning requires about 30 facial muscles to do some work, cracking a smile needs only 17 :)
     
  13. ruet

    ruet Super Member Verified Member ECF Veteran

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    Yup, I read some old newspaper clippings about the millions of people found dead in their garages during the advent of the automobile. :rolleyes:

    Heck, you're right. Infact; why vape at all? Just support big pharma and get a whole bunch of Nicorette, or patches, or whatever.
     
  14. uba egar320

    uba egar320 Vaping Master Verified Member ECF Veteran

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    Why should someone even need you to explain why there is a cloud of "something" lingering around them? Especially in a Pediatrician's office lol..Just take it somewhere else. Simple. Even in a perfect world for ecigs..there are going to be places where it looks plain stupid doing it.
     
  15. ruet

    ruet Super Member Verified Member ECF Veteran

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    I wouldn't have to explain because, even if I were to vape in such a place, I'm able to stealth vape successfully. Maybe, just maybe, the best course of action would have been to teach that natsy space invader how to do the same instead of flipping the F out about it.
     
  16. uba egar320

    uba egar320 Vaping Master Verified Member ECF Veteran

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    Sorry dude, but if you are rude\dumb enough to blow vape around my sick kids in a doc's office...without even knowing me..you're probably to stupid to rationalize with.

    Not saying YOU, but just about the OP's story.
     
  17. LEDBETTER122

    LEDBETTER122 Senior Member ECF Veteran

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  18. LEDBETTER122

    LEDBETTER122 Senior Member ECF Veteran

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    Anyways that was off topic.

    Point is we dont know 100% if its safe, so why put everyone else around you in the situation.

    Especially 2 month old infants
     
  19. ruet

    ruet Super Member Verified Member ECF Veteran

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    I hear what you are saying but let me get this straight. You (the royal you) are in an enclosed space filled, throughout the day, with little Typhoid Mary's. You know what e-cig vapor is and contains and you are still going to get visibly upset that someone accidentally (from the sound of the OP) exhaled some e-cig vapor?
     
  20. LEDBETTER122

    LEDBETTER122 Senior Member ECF Veteran

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    You can't "accidentally" exhale vapor, Because you didn't "Accidentally" inhale it.

    She was not trying to hid the vapor, but was trying to hide the vaporizer
     
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