Wick materials. Safe vs dangerous.

Discussion in 'Wick and Wire' started by EvilGrym, Apr 3, 2012.

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  1. EvilGrym

    EvilGrym Senior Member Verified Member ECF Veteran

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    This thread is not about SS mesh. I don't like it, it has it's own problems, so don't post anything about it, please.

    Let's talk about wick materials for attys.

    Not long ago I found that silica thread gives a needle-like fragments when vaping. Some people made their own independant studyes and found the same problem. The size of needles vary from rather big to small enough to penetrate lungs alveolus and stay there. Big fragments can make an irritating and injuring effect to throat, adam's apple,
    vocal ligaments, stomach when swallowed. Small can stay in lungs forever or for too long time irritating alveolus, even to clogging it up. Simpthoms are scratching or pain at throat and/or adam's apple, regular voice dissapearing at the morning.
    Here is some fotos:
    new wick 05.jpg
    used wick 01.jpg
    :vapor: vapour condensate silica needles(1).jpg

    I found that silica wick may be successfully replaced by a 100% cotton or bamboo yarn. Results are amazing.
    Just one thing - you must boil yarn for some time (about 10-30 min) before use to wash away any yarn impregnation.

    Yarn wick has a better liquid transfer rate, gives more fine-disperced vapour which transfers more nic to lungs , better taste transfer, less coil clogging.

    Yes, if you dried out your wick it will burn, so the only thing it to keep it wet enough.

    We made a croud test of organical wicks at various types of attys. Lifetime of a cotton wick varies from 2 days to more than 14, depends on use conditions. But in common is not less than silica wick testers reported.
     
  2. DonG

    DonG Super Member ECF Veteran

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    Had wondered about cotton since it is used for wick in candles and space heaters but figured burning would be a problem.
    Anyone tried a Kevlar/spectra fiber? Obviously very heat resistant given its use in safety equipment. Never heard of its use though.
     
  3. EvilGrym

    EvilGrym Senior Member Verified Member ECF Veteran

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  4. EvilGrym

    EvilGrym Senior Member Verified Member ECF Veteran

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    Why don't try?
     
  5. subver

    subver Ultra Member Verified Member ECF Veteran

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    Just curious, why don't you like stainless steel mesh?
    I'm getting into mod making and had planned on using stainless steel mesh, but would like to hear your thoughts on it.
     
  6. EvilGrym

    EvilGrym Senior Member Verified Member ECF Veteran

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    SS mesh gives a smack of metal, lowers efficiency factor of device - transfers heat outside useful area. too many operations to make it work. May be you just new in subj? I'm in subj since 2010 and tryed a lot.
     
  7. subver

    subver Ultra Member Verified Member ECF Veteran

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    Thanks, so even when it works well you taste metal?

    Not sure what you mean by the "subj" line
     
  8. BJ43

    BJ43 Vaping Master Verified Member ECF Veteran

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    I am in subject since 2008 and IMO there is nothing out there better than SS in all the main parameters, TH, vaper production, flavor, and health. Never had any of the problems you state. The kanthal is metal and until it gets a little buildup gives off some metal taste no mater what wick you use.
     
  9. subver

    subver Ultra Member Verified Member ECF Veteran

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    Forgive my ignorance but what do you mean when you say you are "in subject?"
     
  10. BJ43

    BJ43 Vaping Master Verified Member ECF Veteran

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    Cotton is relatively safe, no harmful fumes or harmful micro fragments, it is used as the diaper in most carts. It does burn easily if not wet and burning or charring gives off bad flavor.
     
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  12. mwa102464

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    Thers is also something better then all the above, coming to an Atty near you soon :)
     
  13. subver

    subver Ultra Member Verified Member ECF Veteran

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    So "in subject" meaning.. vaping since? Sorry, just seemed worded strangely, didn't know if it had some kind of "lingo" meaning :)
     
  14. BJ43

    BJ43 Vaping Master Verified Member ECF Veteran

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    lol, the original poster is from Russia, you have to relate to how words are translated. In subject and vaping since would be the same.
     
  15. BJ43

    BJ43 Vaping Master Verified Member ECF Veteran

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    Great, looking forward to that.
     
  16. Myk

    Myk Ultra Member ECF Veteran

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    I am absolutely not into modding, but how about wool, genuine from the sheep wool?
    It doesn't readily burn and it wicks up a ton of moisture.
     
  17. subver

    subver Ultra Member Verified Member ECF Veteran

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    Haha, ok, I gotcha :)
     
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    BJ43 Vaping Master Verified Member ECF Veteran

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    Never tried it but most animal hair stinks to high heaven when it burns, which is always a possibility as a wick.
     
  20. jamesd1628

    jamesd1628 Super Member Verified Member ECF Veteran

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    What is this you speak of? Is there another thread I should look at?
     

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