You can't compare cost to DIY at home and to manufacture it in a legitimate business with an actual clean room. Employee salary insurance and rent all factor in but is always forgotten.
Will NEW vapers be low wattage vaping in the future?
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Sure can, when im comparing it to the vape shop who mixes in their back room...and charges nearly $1/ml or very near that even $0.50/ml is too much. Tons of shops make their own. Clean room ha! Not talking about Halo and the likes that moved out of their basement into legit facilities..
I have never and will never buy any e-Liquids that are not made in a controlled environment and even if you buy back room e-Liquids there are still costs associated with owning a business.
Simple. If sales are enough to merit the hiring of employees other than yourself clearly there is profit. Insurance... cheap... rent... most vape shops i know of are in less than desirable locations not your "big ticket" strip malls but the odd duck that doesnt connect to anything and has 3 or 4 other places next to it. easily 1 week would pay for the entire month including cost of goods.
That you know of.
Not enough to justify the ridiculous price of $0.50-1.00 per ml.
Yes, I know what I pay for and I am not afraid to spend my money remember?
Apparently you are not familiar with what commercial property cost to rent per square foot. Believe whatever you want to believe.
If I was paid what I make per hour to make my own DIY it would be the most expensive e-Liquids even if it only takes 10 minutes to make a 30ML bottle.
Whatever helps you sleep. Also you assume everywhere is the same as NYC.... it is not. Undesirable commercial property is much cheaper which is where you will find 95% of vape shops. Its not about who spends money on what. Pretending that that excessive price tag is all going to overhead costs and cost of goods is just silly.
enjoy it however you want but making excuses for these sharks is just ridiculous. Deeming regs are going to make things worse for price too because those who will remain will have a government granted monopoly and just blame "regulations" for cost even if they are still pocketing 80% of sales price as profit.
My everyday juice is .60¢/ml $18/30ml.
That's enough to last me for a week.
Cigarettes are $6/pack, where I am.
At 1.5 packs a day that adds up to $63 a week.
Even throwing in $5 every couple of weeks for factory coils it comes out less than a third the price of smoking.
I try to be budget conscious, but I'm not THAT cheap.
Haha, you try to succeed at a business where you pay $1000-2000 monthly rent, internet, banking, security alarm, heat, hydro, phone ... and likely employees.
A $15 juice costs them $3-4-ish all in excluding the names you kind like OHW, Cuttwood,etc which have crap margins.
Hardware margins suck.
Tough business but HAHA to being ripped off isn't the reality for smokers that want to quit and don't know what VapeNW or Fasttech is.
B&M's are almost universally going to be screwed and that is only bad news for people trying to quit smoking...
I predict:
2020-
USA: The market will be almost entirely cig-a-likes and pods.
DIY and hobby vapers will persist, but a new vaper will buy a BT or BP product from the corner store or filling station. (where they get their cigarettes now)
EU/UK: about the same.
Disgusted
I mostly agreed with this. I think it will be pods and cigalikes, whatever BT wants to make available. I think it will just get more and more regulated until the above is what you have left.
Hopefully I am very wrong. Wouldn't be the first time, lol
I seriously doubt that BT doesn't see the failed attempts to get a piece of the market didn't work and start with a Marlboro MOD or something similar in name that is like the best selling devices today.
I was at Walmart the other night and see they are in the vape bidness now. Pretty basic stuff, sold under a brand that didn't ring any bells. The bod mod looked sorta like a iStick 30 and the tube mod like that AIO I seen a year ago. Ya know they had 30ml bottles of juice and for the life I don't recall the price.
Maybe online.............................
That might happen too. If it did, do you see them offering a selection of toppers like we have now? Or something much more limited? Every choice they give the consumer could potentially cost them a lot to get it approved.
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