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  1. Exchaner

    Vaping vs Smoking

    I am not sure if I fully understand all the assumptions and/or arguments put forth in the various links you two have provided. Even if I did, it would take another 20 pages of discussions to debate their merits - something I am not prepared for at the moment. Perhaps another time. For now, I...
  2. Exchaner

    Vaping vs Smoking

    Thanks, will read the report, but there is probably nothing in it that I did not already know. Hard to believe we filled up 18 pages in this thread on things that are basically common knowledge.
  3. Exchaner

    Vaping vs Smoking

    I read the articles and it is suffering from some of the very flaws for which the OP report is being criticized in this thread. It is akin to a press release if you will - no reason given for the conclusions, no data to back up the findings/opinions. I agree with some of the conclusions, but it...
  4. Exchaner

    Vaping vs Smoking

    Yes I do bring the same open mindedness to positive reports, and do agree with some of the findings. That much should be clear from my previous posts. I have not had time to read the report you are referring to - too busy on this thread fending off some of the distortions/misrepresentations.
  5. Exchaner

    Vaping vs Smoking

    Perhaps then, it should have been made clear that there might be some clinical trials to back up that "press release." Someone other than yourself actually went as far to say there was no such trials ..... I rest my case.
  6. Exchaner

    Vaping vs Smoking

    I fully understand your concerns, but I for one am not qualified to judge whether someone's scientific work is valid or not. That is more than I can say about others who consider bluster as a good substitute for actual knowledge. You will find plenty of examples of such bluster in this and other...
  7. Exchaner

    Vaping vs Smoking

    Interesting take, but not true. I actually did read the version you suggested from another thread. That is where I learned the report was presented in a science conference. If want examples of those who haven't even read the article before disparaging it, look at the comments that effectively...
  8. Exchaner

    Vaping vs Smoking

    That is why I said this report, and others like it, needs to undergo a peer review.
  9. Exchaner

    Vaping vs Smoking

    I could be wrong, but as I have stated before, the work has been presented in a science seminar. Don't know where - or how - to get the raw data, but I am sure the scientists who attended the seminar are not fools. They know a phony report when they see one. As to the headlines, it's just...
  10. Exchaner

    Vaping vs Smoking

    Be happy to,even though I have done so before. I happen to believe vaping might be the safer alternative with one proviso: I reserve the right to change my mind in 20- 50 years when the long term effects are known. Meantime, I refuse to reject out of hand any report that sheds a negative light...
  11. Exchaner

    Vaping vs Smoking

    Hmmm.... Got to be more careful choosing my words :)
  12. Exchaner

    Vaping vs Smoking

    Lung cancer is not the only concern. Emphysema, COPD, high blood pressure, gum disease perhaps , etc. etc.
  13. Exchaner

    Vaping vs Smoking

    Thanks, but really, what did I say in my OP that has so many people riled up? I just don't get it, but perhaps that is because I am not in tune with everyone here ...
  14. Exchaner

    Vaping vs Smoking

    I still don't see the objection to my OP. Perhaps you can clarify....
  15. Exchaner

    Vaping vs Smoking

    That may be true, but not everyone believed it until years later. I see parallels here with skepticism we see of research done on vaping. People are skeptical - just like they were in the 40's.
  16. Exchaner

    Vaping vs Smoking

    Exactly right, and there is some evidence to prove it. However, not everyone has the correct genes to fight lung cancer.
  17. Exchaner

    Vaping vs Smoking

    I stand by what I said. What is your objection to my post, the word "excuse?"
  18. Exchaner

    Vaping vs Smoking

    In which case smoking and vaping are both without hazard. Is that what you are saying?
  19. Exchaner

    Vaping vs Smoking

    I believe people are smart enough to make their own judgement. What we shouldn't do is tell them vaping is completely safe.
  20. Exchaner

    Vaping vs Smoking

    We need to asses vaping on its own merits, not compared to smoking.
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