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  1. Exchaner

    Vaping vs Smoking

    Perhaps I can open yours to consider other viewpoints than yours.
  2. Exchaner

    Vaping vs Smoking

    Your freedoms do not include denying facts, creating distortions or otherwise dismissing any viewpoint that doesn't match yours. If you do not think you are addicted, try and stop your vaping for a couple of days - at will - and let us know how it goes. I for one am skeptical - even though in...
  3. Exchaner

    Vaping vs Smoking

    To repeat my definition of a weak mind: Someone who resorts to name calling when they have no better argument, i.e. when they are cornered intellectually. Nuf said.
  4. Exchaner

    Vaping vs Smoking

    As the OP, I have nothing to add, although I would like to. I decided not to do so since it would not have changed anyone's mind. Thanks everyone for participating and sorry if the conversation got heated at times.
  5. Exchaner

    Vaping vs Smoking

    Sorry if I came off that way. No intention of insulting you - or anyone else. Just expressing my opinion. As you can tell, I am just as opinionated as you are. This ANTZ stuff is way off the mark .... Almost everyone I know is trying to reduce their nicotine intake. It does not make them an...
  6. Exchaner

    Vaping vs Smoking

    THAT, my friend, indicates that you are either a shill, severely naive or else have an agenda. Take your pick.
  7. Exchaner

    Vaping vs Smoking

    Oh yeah, they are not very subtle or even skillful in spreading misinformation.
  8. Exchaner

    Vaping vs Smoking

    Call them what you like. They are shills spreading misinformation to advance the interests of vaping companies.
  9. Exchaner

    Vaping vs Smoking

    Not the ECF. And not a conspiracy theory either. Just propaganda coming from members of vaping establishment posing on the ECF as members - trying to advance their own agenda. It's done all the time ....
  10. Exchaner

    Vaping vs Smoking

    Thanks Lessifer, but we are getting nowhere with this discussion. All I have heard so far is skepticism about this article - and similar ones like it. One member calls it a "press release" ignoring the fact that it was presented at a science seminar. Others ignore the premise of the article...
  11. Exchaner

    Vaping vs Smoking

    You are joking, right? Regardless, I am done with this thread - too much propaganda from the vaping establishment. "Shills" I think they are called.
  12. Exchaner

    Vaping vs Smoking

    Can't blame you a bit. I have reached the same conclusion. Quite possible that some of the resistance is coming from members of the vaping establishment posing here as members. They do not want to hear any comments that pose a risk to their profits.
  13. Exchaner

    Vaping vs Smoking

    Agree on that one.
  14. Exchaner

    Vaping vs Smoking

    I may have done a poor job of presenting the subject, but the fact is, people do NOT want to listen to something contrary to their opinion- especially on the ECF when it seems you are questioning their habits and or addictions. And let's face it, we are all hooked on this stuff. It's just that...
  15. Exchaner

    Vaping vs Smoking

    That probably was not necessary. The type of political incorrectness that seems to be in vogue these days; started by Donal Trump - not that I share any of his thoughts.
  16. Exchaner

    Vaping vs Smoking

    You proly right, but than again, you mite be wrong!! I see such writing all the time .... It distracts people from considering your main message.
  17. Exchaner

    Vaping vs Smoking

    Here is the definition of a weak mind: Someone who resorts to name calling when cornered intellectually.
  18. Exchaner

    Vaping vs Smoking

    Glad you asked. Right now I am a "partial" vaper, meaning I still light up a few times a day although much less than before. I am inclined to believe vaping is the safer alternative, but coming from a scientific background, I always look for proof - regardless of my gut instincts. It seems I am...
  19. Exchaner

    Vaping vs Smoking

    There goes the same old tired argument .... we face many risks in our lives, so we might as well add another. I do not consider it "bickering" to exchange ideas .... we are all after an elusive answer and these discussions help clarify things.
  20. Exchaner

    Vaping vs Smoking

    Not sure what you mean by press release but the evidence was presented at a science conference. Whether or not it is "published" in a credible scientific journal is another story. Quoting from the other thread: "The results were presented Friday at the annual conference of the American...
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