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    Red Sky Mods - It's Contest time. Arrr!

    Black Mesquite Curly Tiger Maple Brushed SS
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    American E-Liquid Manufacturers' Standards Association launches

    That has me rolling on the floor, laughing.....Talk about a soft pitch. And there's a big difference between answering concerns as in "Any US e-liquid manufacturer may apply". Nor does it mean if they don't like a post here, they send a PM instead of answering in the thread. (Yes, I can prove...
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    American E-Liquid Manufacturers' Standards Association launches

    The questions certainly were handled well. However the first parts can be labelled controlled by the way questions were posed to them.
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    American E-Liquid Manufacturers' Standards Association launches

    Shows are good, but they also sometimes open other questions and stimulate ongoing dialogue.
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    American E-Liquid Manufacturers' Standards Association launches

    Yes, but email and the shows are pretty much a controlled environment while this board isn't. I guess that's why some of us love it and others stay away.
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    American E-Liquid Manufacturers' Standards Association launches

    It wasn't presented as a fact, it was a question based on what occurred. I know nothing for or against the question, nor do I claim to. Watch that part yourself, I found it strange and raised the question as to why? There could be a number of reasons and I'd be open to hearing them. I also do...
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    American E-Liquid Manufacturers' Standards Association launches

    I thought I saw something in the first podcast when Adam (I think it was him) was asked how much the fees were. He didn't know and Lou had to jump in with them. If your company had considered that expense and made it, let alone sit on the board, you'd think you'd know right. Unless you're paying...
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    American E-Liquid Manufacturers' Standards Association launches

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    American E-Liquid Manufacturers' Standards Association launches

    There still remains much to be seen... They're taking a "position" of accepting input but we haven't seen any actual accommodations yet. It may also not be a real interest on incorporating feedback but a soft-shoe shuffle based on reactions. On WTA, one of the largest protestations, all they...
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    Whole Tobacco Alkaloid (WTA) now available at Aroma Ejuice

    I don't vape WTA all the time but when I do, only WTA cuts it. I've been vaping a year and a half so my "got to smoke" cravings are much less now, WTA really helps me when they do crop up. Could I do without it? Probably. However, that's almost the same question I get about why don't I just...
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    American E-Liquid Manufacturers' Standards Association launches

    Wrong. Look at the podcast where Lou admitted and spoke about the first time he tried WTA, at the Phoenix Vape-meet, to which he'd driven down to from Sedona AZ. That was followed by the invitation to the lab. See the other link of Adam's declerations about WTA, here's the link for you again...
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    American E-Liquid Manufacturers' Standards Association launches

    He stated that to Lew at a vapemeet when he was a casual aquaintance, that is not "openly on the record". Read the posts and check the podcasts showing the extreme prejudice. I personally wouldn't divulge my trade secrets to a bunch of competitors who have demonstrated extreme prejudice with or...
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    American E-Liquid Manufacturers' Standards Association launches

    Maybe if you read those 80 pages you would see the manufacturer was NEVER contacted about WTA. You can't accuse someone of not disclosing if they hadn't been ASKED! If they want to know what's in WTA they can test it for themselves.
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    American E-Liquid Manufacturers' Standards Association launches

    We already know what causes the cancers, it's not the alkaloids. Residual chemicals can be tested, but then maybe so should everything. Food colorings is very likely in the flavorings but it's either good or bad, not just convenient. You can fight the FDA but it terms of influence, look up Big...
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    American E-Liquid Manufacturers' Standards Association launches

    I must have missed that. If true, it means it's all about the chemicals with WTA but was voted on without the Chemist?!
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    American E-Liquid Manufacturers' Standards Association launches

    I don't mean to imply you're a naive person, just about the extent of prejudice in this situation. You're right, we all see things from our side of the fence. You saw Lew deferring to Kurt as them going to abide by science. I saw him admitting that he knows very little about the science and YET...
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    American E-Liquid Manufacturers' Standards Association launches

    They don't have any specific reasons other they want detailed information and tests beyond what they're asking of any other supplier before they would even consider it. To be fair, Kurt backtracked a bit and spoke about first seeing a test result and I do believe he has a scientific approach. If...
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    American E-Liquid Manufacturers' Standards Association launches

    It wasn't alleged, it occurred and Lew admitted that. His enquiry about methods and such was made long before AEMSA was formed but he and the rest of AEMSA knew who Aroma were, had a personal invite and certainly should have contacted Aroma before putting WTA on the banned list. You can't say...
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    Mrs Brew's weekly random give away........

    I haven't vaped one of the candles yet:blush: I would have to choose a scent that isn't vape-related or my wife would snuff it out.
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    Mrs Brew's weekly random give away........

    I limit my contests to what I like or would try. I LIKE BWB!
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