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    Donate to Dr Farsalinos' new study

    But not all flavour manufacturers only make flavoring for food and beverage. Correct me if I'm wrong, but I believe Inawera, Flavor West, TFA, and FlavourArt make flavouring geared towards e-cigs, either in promoting, or separating their flavours accordingly into an e-cig friendly group...
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    Donate to Dr Farsalinos' new study

    I DIY as well, so ideally I'd like the flavour companies to deal with this as well. I only started to DIY a few months ago, and it was almost entirely because I wanted to avoid certain flavour manufacturers. If I had been guaranteed by e-juice makers that their juice was A&D free (lab tests...
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    Donate to Dr Farsalinos' new study

    ECTA tests finished e-juices, not flavour concentrates. I believe it is because they have to test for other things besides what is in the flavour concentrates...nic levels etc... I think they would agree to what you've written here:) One ECTA member also mentioned that flavour manufacturers...
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    Donate to Dr Farsalinos' new study

    this might not be that relevant because it has nothing to do with the FDA, but ECTA tests for everything in this screenshot, and it costs $200. Also, as others have stated, the more samples you send in the cheaper it gets.
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    Donate to Dr Farsalinos' new study

    Vapemate "Also, we position Electronic Cigarettes as a Tobacco Harm Reduction tool, so our goal should be to eliminate as many harmful aspects as possible. Tobacco Cigarettes contain Diacetyl in concentrations of 250+ ppm. Therefore, whatever testing protocol is used should be expected to test...
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    Donate to Dr Farsalinos' new study

    The link on their page answers some of those questions. They go into the minimal detection limit, and they are working with Enthalpy labs, the same lab that co-authored the crowd funded study with Dr Farsalinos As well, this was already posted a few pages back, but this is a direct quote from...
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    Donate to Dr Farsalinos' new study

    Interesting to note, last time I looked at ECTA's member list it was around 8, that was about 8 months ago, I now see they have 23 members. You have to abide by their testing rules to be a member. On the Canadian forum you see a lot of people saying they'll only buy from ECTA members, that they...
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    Flavors that may contain Diacetyl, are there really this many?

    thanks! I'm not referring to the Clearstream Project, just their claim of being free of A&D.
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    Flavors that may contain Diacetyl, are there really this many?

    Kurt are you aware if FlavourArt provides lab analysis verifying that they are DA free? It seems to be a general consensus that they are but I can't find any lab analysis on their site. thanks!
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    Donate to Dr Farsalinos' new study

    Sorry, let me rephrase this, being that you've worked closely with FlavouArt in the past, and you're a huge proponent of e-juice being free of acetyl and diacetyl, are you confident, with the knowledge you have about FlavourArt, that their claims of being free of these 2 ingredients are accurate...
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    Donate to Dr Farsalinos' new study

    Dr Farsalinos, I know you've been working with FlavourArt over the years, so I'm wondering if you can please tell me if their claim of their ClearStream line being acetyl, acetoin and diacetyl free can be believed? thank you
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    Flavors that may contain Diacetyl, are there really this many?

    Surely if small companies in Canada can pay for testing, these much, much larger companies can afford to. It's not that expensive to test for AA&D, especially when you send in a large batch for testing. Below is a quote from a company that sells e-juice, they don't make the juice themselves but...
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    Donate to Dr Farsalinos' new study

    I received this e-mail from Enthalpy labs regarding the cost of testing. They are a well known lab that Dr K is familiar with (from what I've been told) I asked what it would cost to test for AA&D, and what was their lowest detection level. "Thanks for the note. The target analytes would...
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    Butyric Acid - Alternative to Diacetyl, Acetoin and Acetyl Proprionyl but Toxic by EPA?

    the weirdest part of all this to me is that Tom went out of his way to create a version #2 of his famous vanilla custard, presumably because of health concerns, yet he doesn't know the ingredients of his new version:unsure:
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    Flavors that may contain Diacetyl, are there really this many?

    that is simple! and I agree that just disclosing it would be adequate. I was thinking that a letter from the DR would be more along the lines of "this doesn't have to be in your e-juice, I think you should change the flavours", challenging e-juice makers to change their recipies ....being that...
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    Flavors that may contain Diacetyl, are there really this many?

    You make some good points. That below 1% diacetyl is considered ND being one. And a part of me realizes (since my last post) that pointing out 100 vendors when one can assume that 70% of thousands of vendors may be just as guilty, may not be fair. But I just don't have as mush trust as you do...
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    Flavors that may contain Diacetyl, are there really this many?

    Sorry but so what? If brands and flavours were disclosed, many may continue to still buy it, but those that are buying under the assumption that it's AA&D free should be notified that it's not. Just not feeling sorry for the vendors or the resellers for the inconvenience it may cause them...
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    Request a list of Canadian suppliers (Liquids & Vaporizers) (via PM only)

    Can i please get this list?
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    Pure Vapes has 3ml FlavourArt flavorings

    first recipe contribution, and kind of a take on that Lemon Cookie Supreme recipe that was posted on here, but here I go! it's pretty good (I think:)) 3% FA Coconut 2% FA Cookie 1% TFA cotton Candy 1% TFA vanilla swirl
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    Vapers Tek E-Liquid and EU Nicotine now on ECF

    Sorry Kevin I just saw this post now, I didn't hear back through p.m so I thought maybe it was a no-go. As I have to have it shipped to my Cabin in Point Roberts Washington (I live in Canada), and I'm not going there again for a bit, I'm going to hold off for now. But I hope I can take you up...
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