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    Actual Exposure to Chemicals of Concern (diacetyl/acetoin/acetyl propionyl/etc)

    "Even when I'm willing to bet I'm the least knowledgeable in it ;)" Nope I think I have you beat in that department! I'm scared to contribute to that convo at all, I'm just going to be a tiny tiny fly on the wall :) But I do thank you guys for talking about this topic, and taking the time to...
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    Actual Exposure to Chemicals of Concern (diacetyl/acetoin/acetyl propionyl/etc)

    Acetoin is structurally very similar to Diacetyl, and it's a known lung irritant. It's hard to find one article on Diacetyl (and there are a bazillion) where they don't include a warning on Acetoin as well. It's enough for this vaper:)...
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    Actual Exposure to Chemicals of Concern (diacetyl/acetoin/acetyl propionyl/etc)

    ya in that last report linked you'll see it on page 4. I believe there were more recent studies performed in 2013, although i'm having a hard time finding it, so I can't be positive about that I did find these clips from different articles/studies Acetyl- The alpha-diketone, 2,3-pentanedione...
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    Actual Exposure to Chemicals of Concern (diacetyl/acetoin/acetyl propionyl/etc)

    Acetoin and Acetyl (2,3-Pentanedione) in themselves are harmful to lungs regardless of whether they turn into diacetyl.
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    Actual Exposure to Chemicals of Concern (diacetyl/acetoin/acetyl propionyl/etc)

    "Also, i'm inhaling waaay more vapor than I ever did smoke" - me too, like waaaaaaaaay more!. They were working with liquid and powder form, if I remember an article i read correctly, the liquid form was worse. I hope none of us vapers ever get bronchiolitis obliterans, and that may very...
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    Actual Exposure to Chemicals of Concern (diacetyl/acetoin/acetyl propionyl/etc)

    maybe this? "I can't explain the levels to you, but I think the reason for concern in e-cigs VS regular cigarettes is because the diacetyl is inhaled in a different form. The popcorn factory workers, consumer cases, and scientific studies all point to the vapor as harmful when inhaled. The...
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    Actual Exposure to Chemicals of Concern (diacetyl/acetoin/acetyl propionyl/etc)

    are we supposed to be able to change those numbers on that calculator? because I can't
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    Acetyl Proprionyl, Diacetyl, Acetoine HELP

    I sent a p.m to Dr Konstantinos on facebook regarding this. He said the study has already been published. He also said no companies were mentioned. I asked him if the press release was available to the public and he sent me this link- Chemical hazards present in liquids and vapors of...
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    Acetyl Proprionyl, Diacetyl, Acetoine HELP

    Mowgli if you go to post 597 on this thread, there is a link to another radio show that Dr K was on, it's that interview that he talks about Ethylene glycol.
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    Acetyl Proprionyl, Diacetyl, Acetoine HELP

    You asked me if they were testing Chinese Flavourings, and I said no, as they were not testing Chinese flavourings, they were testing e-juice. It may be that the data was incorrectly interpreted, but I highly doubt that that it was all fabricated for fear mongering purposes.
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    Acetyl Proprionyl, Diacetyl, Acetoine HELP

    No listen to the broadcast
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    Am I the only one panicking about diketones??

    that indeed is the unanswered question! "FYI- In a flavoring that has less than 1% (.6%) diacetyl/similar, when used at a mere 2% in a juice, we'd be vaping 1200 ppb" then corrected "That should read: "we'd be vaping juice that contains 1200 ppb" - but that doesn't mean there'd be 1200ppb in...
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    Acetyl Proprionyl, Diacetyl, Acetoine HELP

    the samples contained up to 70% ethylene glycol. One would take that info and assume E.G was used instead of PG?
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    Am I the only one panicking about diketones??

    " The popcorn workers were exposed to extremely high levels/concentrations of diacetyl, which was in every breath they took for as long as they were inside the plant (8-10 hour days), over a period of decades. " or of a period of only a few months...
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    Pure Vapes has 3ml FlavourArt flavorings

    Passunca's recipes | dot1ml So I definitely recognize some names in these recipes (HIC, we2rcool etc..) which makes it somewhat easy. Is there a way to maybe add PV or FA after their names so we know they are recipes from this thread, and recipes that only use FA? ex- #headinclouds-PV...
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    Pure Vapes has 3ml FlavourArt flavorings

    oh no... i was away for a few days and I'm just catching up, I'm so sorry to see that wllmc is gone:( that's such a drag, and a bit crazy really? says the gal from Vancouver... Are these bans just temporary?
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    Pure Vapes has 3ml FlavourArt flavorings

    I'm like the laziest DIY'er ever. I just buy 12mg 50/50 unflavoured nic juice and use the drop method. No measuring of pg/vg or nic. I'm happy with anything between 10mg-12mg so the flavour dilution isn't an issue. Also, I'm loving whoever said this; "with 6 ml nic base, 1-drop equals .5%...
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    Pure Vapes has 3ml FlavourArt flavorings

    K I want to try this Forest Fruit flavour, can anyone suggest a percentage for this flavour? or another FA flavour to add to it? thank you:)
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    Vapers Tek E-Liquid and EU Nicotine now on ECF

    Kevin is 100Mg the only option you have ? thanks
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    Pure Vapes has 3ml FlavourArt flavorings

    I hear you, I just put in an order for another 15 flavours at Pure Vapes, I think I have almost their entire line now, minus a few I can't imagine liking. Are you guys mostly dripping when you make small batches like this? or are you forever cleaning clearos to change out flavours?
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