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    Acetyl Proprionyl, Diacetyl, Acetoine HELP

    "And so far Flavourart is also top notch. Confirmed coffee, pistachio, wine (red and white) and chestnut contain acetoin. How their custard doesn't fall on this list?... Hmmm..." the only one of those that i see in their e-cig line is the red & white wine. If there is acetoin in that flavour...
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    Acetyl Proprionyl, Diacetyl, Acetoine HELP

    This is a phone conversation that someone from the Canadian Forum had with Linda from TFA. Thought I'd post it to try to somewhat clarify how they operate. "Ok, Here it is: TFA only sources from USA manufacturers that are regulated by the FDA to only produce food grade flavorings. However, the...
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    Acetyl Proprionyl, Diacetyl, Acetoine HELP

    Could they not just send their flavours to a lab to be tested like those Canadian vendors did? The cost per sample that ECTA pays is roughly $200, they probably send in about 15 samples at a time. ECTA said it would probably cost a lot less to just test for acetoin, acetyl and diacetyl (they...
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    Acetyl Proprionyl, Diacetyl, Acetoine HELP

    http://www.cdc.gov/niosh/docket/review/docket245A/pdfs/245-A-Draft_Chapter8.pdf
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    Acetyl Proprionyl, Diacetyl, Acetoine HELP

    I believe them. Let's just say I heard it through the grapevine a few weeks ago that MBV moved away from F.W awhile back. I was never told that they didn't sell any juices containing F.W flavours, but I did find out that they changed the flavours in their most popular blends to not include F.W...
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    Acetyl Proprionyl, Diacetyl, Acetoine HELP

    So.. Heated Diacetyl at strengths of <1% can greatly exceed the diacetyl limits set out by NIOSH, and they recommend that "any concentration" that could generate vapors higher than the allowed amount carry warnings. IMHO this should apply to any flavour companies that knowingly sell to the vape...
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    Acetyl Proprionyl, Diacetyl, Acetoine HELP

    "NIOSH has documented diacetyl exposures in investigations where employees worked with flavoring mixtures with < 1% diacetyl by weight resulting in exposures over the REL. One laboratory-based study also identified emissions of diacetyl from natural butter and butter flavor powders, pastes, and...
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    Acetyl Proprionyl, Diacetyl, Acetoine HELP

    an ECF member posted this on Flavor West's facebook page. "Hi, I'm curious. I've been ordering flavors from your company for a while now and just noticed that some distinct flavors don't have the disclaimer "Diacetyl free" in it. I'm wondering how you plan on addressing this because of the...
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    My TFA's Choice List

    should we be avoiding the essential oil ones?
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    My TFA's Choice List

    Sweet! thank you:)
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    Acetyl Proprionyl, Diacetyl, Acetoine HELP

    Thanks you guys, that's helpful. I think I'll order a wack of FA and then maybe just a few TPA, and I'll get the suggestions that you mentioned (minus RY4 cuz tobaccos aren't my thing)!
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    Acetyl Proprionyl, Diacetyl, Acetoine HELP

    Do most of you that are concerned with acetoin and diacetyl only use FA? And do they offer enough choices to satisfy you, or are there some other acetoin free concentrates from TFA that are a must have?
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    Acetyl Proprionyl, Diacetyl, Acetoine HELP

    The Vapor Chef reviews | All the Juices The Vapor Chef - E-Liquid http://www.vaperlist.com/the-list-v-z.html scroll down to find Vapor chef http://www.e-cigarette-forum.com/forum/general-e-liquid-reviews/376820-first-impressions-vapor-chef-e-liquid.html "This strikes me at first glance as...
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    Acetyl Proprionyl, Diacetyl, Acetoine HELP

    "All of our vegetable glycerine and propylene glycol is USP certified and all our bases come from Wizard Labs in Florida. Our flavor extracts come from reliable safe sources, are diacetyl, acetyl propionyl and acetoin free, and are specifically formulated for vaping. We mix all of our juice...
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    Nicotine Comparisons

    Did ECX resolve the issue with their funky smelling nic? or should they still be avoided?
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    Nicotine Comparisons

    Is Heartland Vapes as good as Nude or WL? Also, does W.L's 500ml size come in a plastic or glass container? thx
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    Acetyl Proprionyl, Diacetyl, Acetoine HELP

    how long can you keep concentrated flavours for? Do you think they would last up to a year? thx Also, do the peppermint and spearmint from F.A already have a cooling effect or do you have to add Koolada?
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    Acetyl Proprionyl, Diacetyl, Acetoine HELP

    it would be so much easier if i could just buy juice from you:) "NN's nic is pure and tasteless -" Do you think it has less throat hit because of this?
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    Starting a LIST of diacetyl-free ejuice suppliers. Please, keep to JUST listing the supplier names!

    Rainbow Vapor tests, and they said they are going to start showing "proof" of those tests (that was on a radio interview) Theravape tests. You can e-mail them for theirs. They just got a couple of tests back that showed small amounts of Diacetyl in 2 juices so they are working on replacing that...
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    Acetyl Proprionyl, Diacetyl, Acetoine HELP

    I also replied back with a whole wack of flavours, and he just replied again. I have to say it took him less than 2 minutes to reply to my first e-mail! Me - "well I’m thinking about starting DIY, and the reason being is to try and avoid these 3 ingredients as much as possible. The concentrated...
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