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    Five Pawns now on ECF

    Hi All, We’re excited over the momentum in this thread and want you to know that we’re listening. It’s showing us how many of you out there truly love this industry and are willing to share your thoughts and knowledge on the polarizing topics that this industry is trying to deal with. One...
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    Five Pawns now on ECF

    Great question and happy you asked it. Newport Scientific is our current lab of choice and we've worked with them and spent tremendous resources to validate the assays being used in our testing. Our method uses 5 point standard curves to determine concentrations of components in our liquids...
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    Five Pawns now on ECF

    Anyone has the right to do what they want (God Bless America). It is important to recognize that there are many factors outside of just the chain of custody issue. There are no standardized validated methods of testing currently approved or adopted in the industry. Currently, labs are using...
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    Five Pawns now on ECF

    Again I can understand that you could assume that but because of significance of a PG Alternative line, which in our view was innovative and unique in the industry. To us, that was the main topic in our marketing approach to announcing this new line. As with any new products additional press...
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    Five Pawns now on ECF

    Couldn't agree more and I am truly worried about all the internal fighting in this industry (both with and without respect to Five Pawns) when the biggest and baddest fight we have (FDA Deeming Regs) is in the 11th hour. I can only hope we aren't proving to the FDA that the industry as we know...
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    Five Pawns now on ECF

    Appreciate the reply... I guess we are more proficient in creating eliquids then we are properly replying to the correct post. Our bad :(!!!
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    Five Pawns now on ECF

    Thanks for question Mr. Mann and it was not our intent to draw any correlation to DA/AP and PG. If it came off that way to you I apologize for that misunderstanding. The intent is to launch a new line of flavors that are PG free and also free of DA and AP. This was not an after thought and...
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    Five Pawns now on ECF

    Yes it's been difficult to get on this forum as a supplier (as some in here have acknowledged). We had to go through the process all over again (and with a little help from Oliver) in converting an old account. We did sign up 2 1/2 years ago and haven’t played in this space because of the...
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    Five Pawns now on ECF

    Thank you everyone. We are happy to be apart of the discussions.
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    Five Pawns now on ECF

    To help clear up some of the confusion on the "unaccredited" and testing issues. We are not stating that Cloud9 or West Yorkshire Analytics did anything to manipulate the numbers or falsify the result. We only know that the results were far exceeding anything we have ever seen from our multiple...
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    Five Pawns now on ECF

    Absolutely willing to talk about it. We completely dispute those results and we believe it's haphazard to release results when there is no data on the chain of custody where there can be possible tampering or cross contamination, were the bottles that where tested in their original sealed...
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    Five Pawns now on ECF

    Humbling... Thx so much.
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    Five Pawns now on ECF

    Well we would certainly love the opportunity to win you back should you get down to 18mg. Until then Vape On on my man.
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    Five Pawns now on ECF

    Thank you much for the support...
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    Five Pawns now on ECF

    We felt with the evolution of this industry and the move from clearo's and cartos to rba's that 24mg was on its way out. Additionally, we were no longer comfortable with that much nicotine in our liquids as it poses more risk to kids, pets, etc..., albeit, we do use child resistant caps. What...
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    Five Pawns now on ECF

    Thanks for your response Utsuru. We just want to be a part of this community and are really excited to have the opportunity to speak with our loyal customers and also our naysayers. I hope this helps...
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    Five Pawns now on ECF

    Hi ECF, I am one of the owners of Five Pawns and I appreciate the opportunity to have some open dialogue with this community. Regards, Rob