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  1. veganvap

    SMOKtech Groove Recall - Important Info for Our Customers

    I still think VW is overratted, maybe in the future that'll change but I doubt it from the reason I listed (which are the same you defended VW with). If you're not using a VV kick or something else that's hard to change volts, it's no trouble to change the volts. I guess I coulg use...
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    Groove replacement question

    They're remaking and fixed the groove suposidly. read my past posts. But, If you want an MVP from Fast tech, it's probably not fake like some people and even Innokin are saying. read this thread or google if it gets removed and read this vapor Joes post...
  3. veganvap

    SMOKtech Groove Recall - Important Info for Our Customers

    ^the plastic ones are recalled. click my name to read my past posts to prove it or do some searching. Report your vendor if they don't allow a return/credit. You can also probably report them if they refuse to accept it in non-working condition. You should soak it in saltwater for 1+ hour before...
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    SMOKtech Groove Recall - Important Info for Our Customers

    ok, I get it now, and dont think you/some middleman tinkered with defective ones to sell them off first. Sorry if I threw up on your thread, but I made a good point which is shame on smoktech for not announcing the recall earlier besides building them faulty to begin with.
  5. veganvap

    SMOKtech Groove Recall - Important Info for Our Customers

    ok, so you're saying: Smoktech discovered the problems with them going thermal etc before the incident (June 7th http://www.e-cigarette-forum.com/forum/apv-discussion/427656-please-read.html) when an ECF member's groove went on fire in their house and Smok didn't announce the recall untill...
  6. veganvap

    SMOKtech Groove Recall - Important Info for Our Customers

    You said Smok remade them because they were asked to, which would have been after the recall when they said they stopped making them (around the 9th), but you got your order in on the 10th?
  7. veganvap

    SMOKtech Groove Recall - Important Info for Our Customers

    They designed, developed and tested a new board with extra protection in just a day or two, and then packed and shipped an order? Maybe Smok told vendors after the recall that they changed their mind and will remake Grooves. Since there would be so many other vendors selling these new...
  8. veganvap

    Post Vendors Here When Selling the New Fixed SmokTech Grooves

    Smok's official recall notice says they stopped production of Grooves, but Gotvapes said in this thread http://www.e-cigarette-forum.com/forum/gotvapes/428453-smoktech-groove-recall-important-info-our-customers-4.html#post9855878 that they already have the new fixed ones from Smok but aren't...
  9. veganvap

    SMOKtech Groove Recall - Important Info for Our Customers

    "After some clarification, it seems there are two separate potential problems with the Grooves. The Groove itself has battery protection on the PCB, the battery itself does not. This type of setup is quite common with many e-cigs that do not take replaceable batteries but the size of the battery...
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    Smoktech groove recall

    I just sent this to Discount Vapers. I'll post the key points of the reply without breaching rules by copy & pasting it: EDIT: I added what the replies from DV meant. Hi. I have questions: You said "this is for a store credit in the amount of the Groove purchase only" I bought 5 Grooves...
  11. veganvap

    Smoktech groove recall

    ^ okay, you said "Batteries can fail for many reasons....and can fail when not even in a product or device....so do we ban shipping batteries all together?" Not "'plenty of bad bateries get shipped, etc". But it's the same thing related to how I wrote that these shouldn't have been shipped in...
  12. veganvap

    Smoktech groove recall

    I'm returning mine definitely after I read numerous times from SMOK saying that both metal and platic have protection problems despite that so many have used a plastic one for months with the only case I know of from a plastic one being it catching fire a day after the owner opened it and...
  13. veganvap

    Smoktech Groove recall - Send them through the Post?? Seriously??

    "I really think vendors should just check order nos. and receipts if people have receipts - and refund. " I really think a lot of people would lie and just keep the defected Groove and the refund and still have dangerous MODs in circulation. "I'll take a video of myself dunking it in the...
  14. veganvap

    Smoktech groove recall

    To everyone who has a plastic or metal Groove, You're supposed to properly dispose of or return these for a refund/credit. Both the plastic and metal versions are recalled. Don't keep the plastic ones like some of you are planning. I'm vaping mine right now, but will send it back after I "Soak...
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    VG and PG USP Besides from DOW the chemical company?

    TY. found this Humco thread http://www.e-cigarette-forum.com/forum/diy-e-liquid/11399-vegetable-glycerin-vs-humco-glycerin-warning-5.html edit: I think the vendor who told me their VG is from DOW was wrong and got it confused with their PG. A pharmacist in the thread I linked said "All...
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    VG and PG USP Besides from DOW the chemical company?

    Before I email a bunch of DIY vendors, does anyone know if non-DOW PG & VG exist? I think I read on ECF that DOW's the only PG USP manufacturer. I also recall reading that VG was all/mostly made by another company but a vendor recently told me that their VG is from DOW. I read the...
  17. veganvap

    All natural, (pref organic), VG or alcohol tobacco flavor?

    People are competitive. I feel being vegan gives me a physical and mental advantage over others, but for the animals and planet, I say all go vegan. Anyway, back on topic, the organic one's all I found and am ordering that and hopefully not spending that much again for tobacco flavor because...
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    All natural, (pref organic), VG or alcohol tobacco flavor?

    ^ please google tobacco seeds and grow it organically, or just ask a RYO tobacco forum/google for some zero addative off-brand tobacco. Don't buy american spirit. They're a sub company and funder of RJ Renoylds which tests cigarettes etc on animals for BS marketing scemes completely on the...
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    All natural, (pref organic), VG or alcohol tobacco flavor?

    Looking for the same. Found this. pricey ($25 for 37ml and %25 of the DIY mix is suggested) but organic at least. http://www.myvapejuice.com//product_info.php/cPath/25/products_id/87/osCsid/2a2bf35da749fcaeded84344430dcd7f Check these http://www.myvapejuice.com/index.php/cPath/25 Takes a...
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    Nature's Flavors Extracts vs Concentrates? Concentrate extract natures nature flavor

    ^ wrong according to the person at NF I spoke to on the phone today. They said only the flavors that are an immitation butter/cream/milk type might have Diacetyl (basically immitation butter). She said all of the non-cream type flavors in 'flavors for tea/coffee' don't have Diacetyl or added...