Addressing the bans was never the issue. I agree wholeheartedly that the bans are wrong and need to be addressed. Creating an extremist movement is only going to generate the wrong kind of attention. We already have a man who happens to be a vaper being brought up on charges for being a...
I agree and was simply using it as an example.
OK now I'm confused because that's what I've been saying this entire time.
Vaping IS NOT a right and the people in this thread who are insisting that it is their right to vape wherever, whenever are just plain wrong. And due process could very...
I suggest you try telling that to the gay couple who wants to get married, and the constitution doesn't just magically spring forth new writing.
Constitutional Amendments
So again it takes a MAJORITY to give or revoke rights, and anybody who thinks that the constitution can't take away needs...
Interesting that you should choose those words because if you recall blacks and women WERE NOT permitted to vote until they convinced the MAJORITY that they should be included.
Why do you constantly assert that somehow the right of the minority is more important than the right of the majority? If 4 people are in a public enclosed area than they all have the same rights, if one of them is a vaper and the other 3 tell him not to vape, than by your argument the correct...
Give a man a fish, you feed him for a day
Teach a man to fish, he will sit in a boat and drink beer all day
Beat a man with a fish, and he will tell everybody that some :censored: with one of those e-cigs beat him with a fish because he was asked not to use it in the boat.
Support any place...
And what exactly do you think an electronic cigarete/e-cig/PV is? It's an electronic device that is intended to look and taste like its carcinogenic equivelant.
And the analogy YOU provided twice now with regards to alcohol has only reinforced the link. We are swapping e-cigs for real ones...
Total agreement from me and I found a link...
Nicotine Addiction
BUT, I do agree that nicotine, which from the studies of vaping that I have seen, is almost totally absent from the exhaled vapor. The biggest problem is that we are trying to prove a negative. I can PROVE that second hand...
Summary of Constitutional Rights, Powers and Duties
I respectfully suggest that you read this because nowhere is it written or even suggested that anything not illegal is therefor legal. You do have certain personal rights, and so does the man/woman/child standing next to you. Also remember...
My "rights" as far as vaping is concerned IMO are that I am permitted to Vape in any place that I was permitted to smoke OR have obtained permission from the PTB to vape in their establishment/home. as an example I am allowed to vape at my desk at work and in the office of the owner when in a...
It doesn't matter what he was arrested for, in the 2 seconds it takes someone to read that headline, their brain had already processed "Another one of those e-cig a-holes stirring up crap again."
O'Douls most certainly is beer, it just has very little alcohol content. Many states regulate it the same as Heineken and Budweiser. Simulated drinking is exactly the same as simulated smoking, unless your contention is that 0 nic juice isn't really vaping, and IF a recovering alcoholic was...
It's a psychological argument. The act of vaping resembles smoking, there is no arguing that, because it's meant to. Nicotine inhalers are the closest FDA approved NRT thaat resembles smoking(as far as I know) and they have spent Billions on making people aware that it exists and that it's to...
So basically the only thing that makes these "safer" than our PV's is that there is more nicotine in them that in a PV and that they are licensed, not because they are tested, not because there is ample evidence but because we paid for a f---ing LICENSE. Hmmmmm...apparently hypocracy knows no...
There are legal ways around that. There is regulation on nic-gum, but not on regular gum. If mom and pop e-juice stores sold flavored liquid with no nic in it and it just happens that it's a bit on the heavy side...and if it was mixed with phillip morris nic e-juice by the person who bought...
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