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  1. TheIllustratedMan

    Smoking Everywhere V. FDA Daily Docket Sheet Update--APPEAL's COURT ISSUES STAY

    I only wish we had more details... what was discussed? What was put forth by each party? What was the attitude of Judge Leon? Questions linger... But I'll throw in and say thanks Sun et Legal One for keeping us out of the dark dark forest.
  2. TheIllustratedMan

    Smoking Everywhere V. FDA Daily Docket Sheet Update--APPEAL's COURT ISSUES STAY

    Unless someone (*cough*NJOY*cough*Legal One*cough*) wants to share...
  3. TheIllustratedMan

    EVENT ALERT - Court Hearing on E-Cigarettes [8/17] // Ruling Could Determine Fate of Controversial Nicotine Product

    i'm pretty sure it's not being covered by anyone, so we'll just have to wait to find out what goes down.
  4. TheIllustratedMan

    Smoking Everywhere V. FDA Daily Docket Sheet Update--APPEAL's COURT ISSUES STAY

    Oh no, I don't have any illusions about how much was done. I just mean time-wise. I've sent letters to newspapers, suppliers, the FDA, NJOY, SE, Judge Leon, Attorney General Cuomo (NY)... probably others. The final hearing is today, ruling can be anytime in the next month. What more can we do at...
  5. TheIllustratedMan

    Smoking Everywhere V. FDA Daily Docket Sheet Update--APPEAL's COURT ISSUES STAY

    Ah. Lame. Give that info to BigJim for a nice "information control" rant if you like. ;-) Anyone else feel like we've done all we can and are just waiting now? Kind of a relief actually...
  6. TheIllustratedMan

    Smoking Everywhere V. FDA Daily Docket Sheet Update--APPEAL's COURT ISSUES STAY

    Do they release transcripts of hearings? Everything gets written down anyway, does it end up anywhere that we can access? Obviously, I'm fairly new to the federal court. :-D (also, my letter should be in the hands of a postal carrier as we speak... yay!)
  7. TheIllustratedMan

    Smoking Everywhere V. FDA Daily Docket Sheet Update--APPEAL's COURT ISSUES STAY

    I was wondering the same thing, sort of. When can we expect to know what went on? Tuesday?
  8. TheIllustratedMan

    Smoking Everywhere V. FDA Daily Docket Sheet Update--APPEAL's COURT ISSUES STAY

    Any chance of a surprise appearance at the hearing tomorrow? Appearing as a witness for the plaintiff or some such?
  9. TheIllustratedMan

    Smoking Everywhere V. FDA Daily Docket Sheet Update--APPEAL's COURT ISSUES STAY

    I have composed a letter to his Honor, advocating for a compromise. I will have to snail-mail it, so it won't arrive until after the hearing, but I hope that it does some good. I am also carbon-copying it to Smoking Everywhere, njoy, and the FDA. I urge all of you to either write your own letter...
  10. TheIllustratedMan

    Peach Pits!? Msn E-Cig article 8/16/09

    I believe this is the link: New Ways to Quit Smoking - MSN Health & Fitness - Health Topics Looks like you're referring to this section: Looks to me that all they're saying is the same old "there's no clinical research, I don't know if they work, so I can't recommend them." That's actually a...
  11. TheIllustratedMan

    Smoking Everywhere V. FDA Daily Docket Sheet Update--APPEAL's COURT ISSUES STAY

    Yeah, that's my fear as well. I may just write that letter anyway.
  12. TheIllustratedMan

    Aclu?

    Yeah, but we are the bad kids...
  13. TheIllustratedMan

    New York and Long Island we NEED your help!!!

    I was considering coming down (~5 hour drive) but I get out of work at 7am. Unfortunately, no way out of it (we're ridiculously short-staffed... record unemployment my ...). Good luck to you guys, anything I can do remotely, let me know. -Nate
  14. TheIllustratedMan

    Smoking Everywhere V. FDA Daily Docket Sheet Update--APPEAL's COURT ISSUES STAY

    That would depend on: a) if the ruling allows for the FDA to block all shipments. b) if the package is in/headed to customs or has already made it through. c) how aggressively the FDA pursues their embargo. d) if by some chance that package gets overlooked. I'd say it's really a...
  15. TheIllustratedMan

    Google Chrome issues

    I use Chrome pretty much exclusively and have had no problems here. Some sites do have issues, and nearest I can figure it's due to ActiveX plugins that don't support the browser (or that the browser doesn't support). Could we maybe get a list of reported problems? I could try to replicate some...
  16. TheIllustratedMan

    Smoking Everywhere V. FDA Daily Docket Sheet Update--APPEAL's COURT ISSUES STAY

    Any reputable reporter would cry in his tea over those kinds of information gathering. (Do people still drink tea?)
  17. TheIllustratedMan

    Avatars: Real or Fiction?

    <<< About how I feel most of the time. My profile picture is how I feel the rest of the time (at least when I'm not feeling other ways). Maybe some day I'll upload a real picture of me, if I ever shave again, and trim the hair, and take a picture of myself. That seems like an awful lot of work...
  18. TheIllustratedMan

    A PV that does not use pg,vg,peg that is small

    From what I understand, you're not going to get the "smoking" effect without PG or VG. There may be another compound out there take behaves the same way and wouldn't irritate your throat, but I don't know about it. With the Iolite, it's actually giving off vapor and not mist. This is an...
  19. TheIllustratedMan

    Smoking Everywhere V. FDA Daily Docket Sheet Update--APPEAL's COURT ISSUES STAY

    Is there any hope that at the end of the hearing Judge Leon recommends the parties come to an agreement before his ruling? If that's even an outside possibility, I would draft a form letter any of us who support that avenue could send to the court. At least his clerks might read them and the...
  20. TheIllustratedMan

    Smoking Everywhere V. FDA Daily Docket Sheet Update--APPEAL's COURT ISSUES STAY

    First, you all know how I feel this case is going anyway... that said, this is ridiculous: Smoking Everywhere and nJoy are not involved in the marketing of ...... in any form. ASH makes it clear that they understand this, but worry that the electronic cigarette could be used to administer...
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