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  1. TheIllustratedMan

    Smoking Everywhere V. FDA Daily Docket Sheet Update--APPEAL's COURT ISSUES STAY

    Here's a question to throw out there: the "reduced harm" category of tobacco products includes smokeless tobacco (ie. chew). On the bottom of a pouch of Red Man, it says something along the lines of "Chewing tobacco is not a safe alternative to smoking". Is this a standard message on all tobacco...
  2. TheIllustratedMan

    Blood test lab results for nicotine levels!!!

    I'm always confused by absorption claims. People either cite 95 - 99% nicotine absorption or 1/10th that of a cigarette. Both groups point the the Health New Zealand report. I just went back and read it (again!). In section 4.1, they claim 99% absorption, but I can't tell if this is assumed or...
  3. TheIllustratedMan

    Smoking Everywhere V. FDA Daily Docket Sheet Update--APPEAL's COURT ISSUES STAY

    Looks like a no-nicotine oral spray, each ingredient found in the homeopathic pharmacopoiea and approved/regulated by the FDA...
  4. TheIllustratedMan

    Smoking Everywhere V. FDA Daily Docket Sheet Update--APPEAL's COURT ISSUES STAY

    I took his reply to mean that it's not considered a tobacco product, probably a food product. Since all the components are approved for human consumption, it's just a new recipe. Or something. >Must remember not to try adding to serious conversations with massive head pressure<
  5. TheIllustratedMan

    L.I. - Cooper - S.E. help...

    You should PM Sun, he seems to remember every little word that was said by everyone ever. He may be able to help you.
  6. TheIllustratedMan

    L.I. - Cooper - S.E. help...

    I checked all of Legal One's posts and found nothing. Lacey has said a couple of times that nicotine should be regulated (sort of). She may have been confused as having something to do with SE and her comments taken out of context... other than that, I really can't find anything. Of course, I'm...
  7. TheIllustratedMan

    Must stop watching GI Joe previews

    Excuse my friend, he saw "GI Joe" and got excited. I'll just escort him out and we won't bother you ladies any longer. Carry on... Come on UptownRiot...no, we have to.. Get back here! >THUD< ... >DRAG< >DRAG< >DRAG< >DRAG< >DOORSLAM< Again, very sorry about that...
  8. TheIllustratedMan

    ASH responds to e-cig letter and PayPal abuse:

    Well, except for that one from that impartial government body... Still a semantics war, still all about point-of-view... still waiting for the hearing...
  9. TheIllustratedMan

    Smoking Everywhere V. FDA Daily Docket Sheet Update--APPEAL's COURT ISSUES STAY

    So at what point does "reduced risk" equal "disease prevention"? You're talking about a product that they swear up and down is only being marketed to long-term smokers. By claiming reduced harm, you are saying "If these people continue to smoke, there is a good chance that they will suffer from...
  10. TheIllustratedMan

    Smoking Everywhere V. FDA Daily Docket Sheet Update--APPEAL's COURT ISSUES STAY

    Whoa, hold the phone... E-ciggies help 45% smokers quit: News24: SciTech: News Apparently the ECA's position is that they prevent disease. That makes them a drug, and subject to FDA regulation.
  11. TheIllustratedMan

    email I got from the FDA

    Well, there's a difference between how something is marketed and the impact it has on a market. It is within the FDA's power to regulate marketing, but is it within their power to forbid a product that might appeal to "young people", regardless of marketing? If the electronic cigarette ends up...
  12. TheIllustratedMan

    email I got from the FDA

    I'm curious as to whether this is the FDA's job to determine: I understand the concern from a public health point-of-view (not that it totally follows that a teen who uses an electronic cigarette is going to start smoking tobacco, but that's beside the point), but is it really the FDA's job to...
  13. TheIllustratedMan

    Fda news release

    Thank you :) I look forward to hearing anything they have to say on the matter(s).
  14. TheIllustratedMan

    Fda news release

    Jo- Thank you for the acknowledgement that there are valid reasons for concern, especially in the coming weeks. If you are unable to address my concerns, could you pass them on to others at the ECA? Maybe they can weigh in on this? -Nate
  15. TheIllustratedMan

    8Pm EST Tongiht! I have an EXCLUSIVE Review.

    ..but will it go with my shoes?
  16. TheIllustratedMan

    Fda news release

    Well, therein lies the problem. It's a semantics battle. If you look at what has been going on in the past few weeks, it's entirely possible that we all fell into a trap. First the FDA releases a report saying that electronic cigarettes could be a health hazard. They contain carcinogens and a...
  17. TheIllustratedMan

    Fda news release

    I think it's pretty clear cut that the FDA has jurisdiction over nicotine. That's not really the issue. The issue is more whether the electronic cigarette is intended to prevent, cure, or treat a disease. If it is, it's a medical device delivering a drug and is to be regulated as such. If not...
  18. TheIllustratedMan

    Fda news release

    :confused:
  19. TheIllustratedMan

    Fda news release

    Both make sense... just a random thought that crossed the mind... Carry on.
  20. TheIllustratedMan

    Fda news release

    (Can't believe I'm about to ask Jim for an opinion) :p Any idea why they tested specifically for Diethylene Glycol? Did I miss that part? The only logical reason would be that they did a spectrograph analysis and found it in the one cart, so displayed results for all of them. Not sure if...
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