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  1. TheIllustratedMan

    Questions about the Electronic Cigarette Association

    This forum does create a strange situation where consumers and suppliers are interacting on a daily basis and fighting toward a common goal. I really hope that once this is all sorted out, we don't get a nasty "Ha ha we used you to stay in business!" surprise, but anything's possible. I for one...
  2. TheIllustratedMan

    E-Cigarette News from the FDA

    http://www.fda.gov/downloads/Drugs/ScienceResearch/UCM173250.pdf
  3. TheIllustratedMan

    Article with and an astonishing ASH quote

    HAH! I don't think that Ms. Arnott ever said that PVs were safer. I think she gave her quote about the chemicals and the reporter made the leap. It's a start!
  4. TheIllustratedMan

    Smoking Everywhere V. FDA Daily Docket Sheet Update--APPEAL's COURT ISSUES STAY

    Unfortunately, after this, I don't see how they're going to be able to regulate it without something changing. They've come out and said "it causes cancer!!" and the media spread that like wildfire. If they were to come out now and say "we're going to approve it for OTC use" there would be an...
  5. TheIllustratedMan

    Smoking Everywhere V. FDA Daily Docket Sheet Update--APPEAL's COURT ISSUES STAY

    As far as I'm concerned, the FDA's toxicology report (can we please not call it a study?) was fairly consistent with previous reports. The HNZ study showed 8 ppb TSNAs in the highest nicotine liquid. Since the FDA's LOQ was at least 21 ppb per TSNA, the SE carts coming up as ND (for the most...
  6. TheIllustratedMan

    How Long Would It Take For Ecigs To Give You Cancer?

    A comparison between the levels of TSNAs being ingested by the average user on a daily basis is fine. Saying that those levels will give you cancer in x amount of time is irresponsible. There are many factors that need to be taken into account when discussing formation of cancerous cells, and...
  7. TheIllustratedMan

    How Long Would It Take For Ecigs To Give You Cancer?

    I have to agree with Bob here. This is just as irresponsible as the FDA's press release. I say drop it. [EDIT] By the by, getting in touch with the Truth campaign is an excellent idea. Emailed.
  8. TheIllustratedMan

    Fda news release

    Appreciated, though you may not want to ask him to write an article... personalization is good! :-D
  9. TheIllustratedMan

    Fda news release

    Dear Sir: On Wednesday, July 22, the Food and Drug Administration (FDA) released a health alert regarding electronic cigarettes, also known as personal vaporizers (PVs). This alert reported that "a laboratory analysis of electronic cigarette samples has found that they contain carcinogens and...
  10. TheIllustratedMan

    Njoy response to FDA

    Absolutely true Lacey, but beside my point. :-D
  11. TheIllustratedMan

    Njoy response to FDA

    Regarding this whole "they used Nicotrol, not a cigarette, what the hell!?" argument: The FDA is currently the defendant in a suit in which they allege that the electronic cigarette is a drug/device combination and is therefore to be regulated the same way that an NRT is. The plaintiffs...
  12. TheIllustratedMan

    Antifreeze in liquid?

    Diethylene glycol is not a carcinogen. Tobacco specific nitrosamines are. Please see this thread for more information: http://www.e-cigarette-forum.com/forum/campaigning/28246-facts-regarding-fda-press-release-7-22-repost.html This should put your mind at ease and give you the tools to...
  13. TheIllustratedMan

    E-Cigarette report on WTMJ 4 - Milwaukee WI

    Since you posted that you were appalled by the closeups twice now, I'll assume you're fishing for this... You both looked fine. Although, Tamara, those bangs could go. :-P
  14. TheIllustratedMan

    ECA Membership Suggestions

    ...and a yearly convention! I'd go.
  15. TheIllustratedMan

    Milwaukee, Wisconsin WTMJ4 Special Feature on PV's

    Very nice. I like that the FDA news was a footnote at the end, and the reporter basically said what we have been all along: "Use at your own risk, and stay informed." The doctor gave very reasonable warnings while staying positive. Overall a very nice report. Good job guys! -Nate
  16. TheIllustratedMan

    Oh, my--I love this!

    My car adapter didn't work with my PT, but it's probably either not rated high enough or the jack sucks (really could be either with my car). As for portable power, why does everyone push the Kensington? Phillips makes the same item. Is it no good? I could get one for 20% off, and if I wait...
  17. TheIllustratedMan

    What Can You Do Today!?!

    I just sent this letter out to a reporter from the L.A. Times regarding his blurb found here: Carcinogens and poisons found in electronic cigarettes - Los Angeles Times Notice that it's dated July 27. With any luck it's to be published in Monday's paper and I can reach him before it goes to...
  18. TheIllustratedMan

    Urgent E-smokers Unite!

    Hey, I agree with you. Just seems to me that presenting that as our face is going to turn off a lot of people who will think that we're just antigovernment nutjobs. Meh, keep on keepin' on man. Give 'em hell. :-D
  19. TheIllustratedMan

    Urgent E-smokers Unite!

    BigJim! I appreciate you using your voice to speak out in this campaign. We all need to step up here. However, don't you think that making inflammatory comments and insulting people's intelligence is counter-productive? Present them with the facts and let them make their own conclusions as...
  20. TheIllustratedMan

    Fda news release

    I'm pretty sure the Nicotine Water people tried that and it didn't fly, so that may be a no-go. Besides, I'm not sure that I want MORE tobacco in my PV.
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