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  1. TheIllustratedMan

    Any non-smokers vaping?

    My fiance is, for all intents and purposes, a "non-smoker". She will occasionally have a clove or two, but doesn't smoke habitually at all (other than she'll typically have one when we go to a concert). She is very intrigued by the e-cig. I think she's coming from a place where she enjoys the...
  2. TheIllustratedMan

    Ruyan Direct...customs issues

    That's what I figured. I was more worried that the thing has already gotten lost. Thanks for the reassurance though.
  3. TheIllustratedMan

    Are we shooting ourselves in the foot by using the term 'E Cigarette'?

    Oh. My. I've taken to introducing it as an "E-cigarette... Personal Vaporizer, whatever...", but you're right, neither is really descriptive enough. My buddy said "It isn't that thing that heats the tobacco is it? Because that smells and tastes awful." I still had to explain it. We probably...
  4. TheIllustratedMan

    Are we shooting ourselves in the foot by using the term 'E Cigarette'?

    Didn't read all the suggestions, but... Battery Operated Nicotine Emitter It's a BONE! Also "steaming"... like it, but I also think of a giant load, so...
  5. TheIllustratedMan

    What exactly is in the vapor we exhale?

    That's an excellent report, but I'm a bit skeptical about its real goal. It reads like an ad. One statistic from the beginning of the report: Does this sound right to anyone? I don't have first-hand experience yet, but from what I read that sound exaggerated. Being on page 6 of 28 makes me a...
  6. TheIllustratedMan

    Ruyan Direct...customs issues

    This might be a stupid question, but how long does it take to show up on the EMS website? Mine shipped yesterday, but my waybill still gives me an error. Could it take a couple of days to show up?
  7. TheIllustratedMan

    FDA Ban on e-Cigs and how it will affect you

    You mean that the only thing that they would make in the US is the tobacco. They'd then ship that overseas, have five-year-old Cambodian kids stomp on it like grapes for wine (rotting their feet away in the process), combine the result with propylene glycol, water, flavor, and a thousand other...
  8. TheIllustratedMan

    FDA wrinkles its nose at electric cigs

    I think that's the most interesting image I've gotten all day. Thanks!
  9. TheIllustratedMan

    We need to beat the FDA to the gate!

    SM- As I wrote in my uber-long post (sorry about that, again): Funded by: us + doctors + suppliers + our loved ones who don't want us to die + anyone else you can convince to throw in a few bucks. What testing to be done: depends on how you're trying to classify it, but basically the...
  10. TheIllustratedMan

    Huge Juice Sale! 15ml bottles - $6.50

    Got mine today, thanks for the quick shipping.
  11. TheIllustratedMan

    We need to beat the FDA to the gate!

    Check out HR1256 9.11(g)(4). These are the criteria that need to be reviewed. I think that we would fall under 9.11(g)(4)(E). Paragraph (2) shows how a product could be marketed and sold without scientific data, contingent on scientific data being provided at a point in the future. I guess...
  12. TheIllustratedMan

    Does smokers have low IQ ?

    and rithmetic
  13. TheIllustratedMan

    We need to beat the FDA to the gate!

    All right. So we hang out, do nothing, and hope for the best. Sounds like an excellent strategy. *sigh* Doesn't tell me anything about who has to do the testing. It says that the FDA reviews the test results. It ALSO says that some products don't need to actually be approved. How is us...
  14. TheIllustratedMan

    We need to beat the FDA to the gate!

    I was thinking about this very thing today at work, and was going to start a thread, but seems you beat me to it by a few days... so be it. :-D As a disclaimer before all this: I have yet to even try a PV. I don't know that I'm even going to like it. However, I fully support the idea, and am...
  15. TheIllustratedMan

    Senate passes most sweeping tobacco control bill - today 6/11

    Agreed that thorough testing would be a great boon. What are they going to find? "Inhalation of propylene glycol vapor causes hairs to grow from cilia in the lungs. These hairs reach two to three feet long in a matter of hours, causing suffocation. The nicotine found in most 'juice', when...
  16. TheIllustratedMan

    A new Esmokers Journey

    Well, I just ordered my M401 + extras, but didn't order any extra juice. I'm not sure what flavors my fiance and I will like, so I'm a bit leery about getting a 30ml bottle. 15ml seems OK, and inexpensive enough that I could get several flavors. What size bottles are in the Johnson Creek...
  17. TheIllustratedMan

    New users - Put your location in your Profile...

    I'm Nate, from Upstate NY. Good to know ya!
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