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  1. SimpleSins

    Industry Concerns

    It depends on which ones; for example, Dekang is coming from China factory-produced. Of the stuff produced by hand mixing here in the states, I would guess easily 90% is home-based. Of those, I doubt even 50% have standards in place which would satisfy the health department. And none of the...
  2. SimpleSins

    Industry Concerns

    I'm not exactly sure where you are coming up with these doomsday scenarios. Nobody said extensive testing need be done (although I guess that depends on how you define extensive). And if you want to use your analogy of Big Pharma, let's look at the different numbers of antibiotics- there's a...
  3. SimpleSins

    Industry Concerns

    I'm going to respond to these kind-of randomly. If you are using your home to conduct business, it is both a private residence and a business location. At least in California, there are clearly outlined requirements as far as producing a safe consumable (which is as close as standards for...
  4. SimpleSins

    Industry Concerns

    Don't forget the fries. And the chocolate "milk" shake (one of their proprietary recipes is what that really is).
  5. SimpleSins

    Worried, worried, worried

    I'm not sure I agree with your opinion on this. If you deal with vendors that disclose, it's easy enough to avoid diacetyl. We should encourage new vapers to educate themselves completely, not just on whether a Buzz is better than a Chuck and whether PG provides more throat hit than VG. It...
  6. SimpleSins

    Industry Concerns

    Johnson's Creek does seem to have gotten ahead of the ball as far as their product goes and they are one of the few that is probably in a good position to be ready should the FDA start regulating. As big as they are, I'm guessing that they've got their clean rooms, OSHA clearance, health...
  7. SimpleSins

    Worried, worried, worried

    I believe they use FlavourArt flavoring and so there is diacetyl in some of the flavorings, although FA is in the process of reworking their formulas and eliminating it. And there are a lot of flavors that don't use diacetyl or its substitutes, so it's not a matter of either diacetyl or...
  8. SimpleSins

    Worried, worried, worried

    If you really are worried, there are ways to lessen some of the risks. Avoid flavoring known to contain diacetyl or any of its substitutes- these would include the butters, creams, and caramels. Blow out and even do a cleaning/soaking of your atomizer before using it the first time to clean...
  9. SimpleSins

    Industry Concerns

    I was under the impression that ECA disappeared round about the time of the first hearing with the FDA. And one difference I must point out is that ECITA is an organization for the vendors. The ecig industry itself got proactive and established safety and quality standards in order to get...
  10. SimpleSins

    Industry Concerns

    I cannot speak for cigarettes- I do not smoke them anymore. As to food products, they can get away with saying "flavoring' because each of those ingredients has been proven safe for that use. However, that is not true for vaping. As a matter of fact, many of the ingredients that we vape and...
  11. SimpleSins

    Industry Concerns

    I don't know exactly where you got the idea that anybody would regulate what was in the juice. My own line of thinking was that there were safety standards that at a minimum must be met (such as the cleanliness of the mixing area) and random testing of the ingredients (which I don't know that I...
  12. SimpleSins

    Industry Concerns

    You would think, but unfortunately that is not the case. There are no standards, health or otherwise, set up for this industry, so in essence your juice could be filtered through dog hair while the baby sneezes into the nicotine fluid and the cat uses the litter box stored right beside the...
  13. SimpleSins

    Why pay tax at some suppliers and nothing at others. Something not right

    Was that just their regular $2.99 delivery? They had been using FedEx which I think was slowly thing down and then they started using USPS which, despite the bad reputation the postman has, seems more efficient than either of its two main competitors.
  14. SimpleSins

    Why pay tax at some suppliers and nothing at others. Something not right

    If it makes you feel any better, think of it as an expediting fee. Unless you get magical postal service, the your BWB delivery should reach you sooner than something several states away.
  15. SimpleSins

    Where can I purchase flavors...

    Try Pure Vapes. He has great sizes and a discount on shipping if you don't mind waiting on First Class.
  16. SimpleSins

    Industry Concerns

    Enree, in many ways you are certainly correct. As a matter of fact, it was for those very reasons that I choose to mix the majority of my own juices, with only a handful that I trust enough for the other times. However, even as far as mixing one's own juice, there has to be some information...
  17. SimpleSins

    Industry Concerns

    In some ways, I think that is all the more reason we the consumer have to really stick up for our safety and well being. We've got this pre-existing condition built in. Go read the health board- no matter what pulmonary complaint, no matter whether it had ever been experienced before- the...
  18. SimpleSins

    Industry Concerns

    I agree Roger. I think that's why it's important to eliminate and/or avoid (at least for ourselves) those that are known to present a potential danger. Using your asbestos as an example, I don't think it went from being perfectly fine to banned overnight. I am sure there were warning signs...
  19. SimpleSins

    Industry Concerns

    I think the biggest risk in the vaping is in the juice. As a group we are entrusting one of the most critical organs (officially I guess a pair) we have to people who rarely have any education in any related field (be it chemistry or medical) and little or no motivation to provide a safe...
  20. SimpleSins

    I'm starting a Diacetyl Thread Collection.....

    For those that may not have had the opportunity to read any of the previous discussions before they were unceremoniously closed, diacetyl is a flavoring agent that has been targeted as the cause of 'popcorn worker's' lung/disease because of the damage it caused to the lung tissue of worker's...
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