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  1. pinellaspete

    Vinegar?

    From my experience I have noticed the following: Fruit Flavors I think some if not all fruit flavors contain some malic or citric acid as part of the flavoring. I think it would impart some tart or sour flavor so they would taste more like the real fruit. My fruit flavors, before I started...
  2. pinellaspete

    Vinegar?

    Here's where I bought my malic and tartaric acid. The also have citric acid. Here's the link: The Home Brewery - Wine Making Additives None of the acids smell. Order the 2oz. sizes, that will be enough to last a few years at least. You need to make a dilution first. 1/2 teaspoon of acid...
  3. pinellaspete

    Vinegar?

    Sveiks! My wife is of Latvian heritage. She was born in the USA but both my in-laws were born in Latvia. My in-laws actually own a small apartment building in downtown Riga and visit every year. As far as diluting the citric acid I would use 1/2 teaspoon of citric acid into 10ml of PG. That...
  4. pinellaspete

    Vinegar?

    Thanks for joining the thread Scubabatdan! I agree with you, almost everything we eat has acid in it to adjust the pH. I think our target pH should be somewhere between 3.0 and 6.0 pH though. Almost all the foods we eat fall somewhere in that range. If we adjust to 7.0 (Neutral), that will...
  5. pinellaspete

    Flavors are real light, more steeping?

    See...Flavors are soooo subjective. Black Fire is one of my favorites. I kid you not! Let me guess...Were you drinking a Starbuck's when you were deciding on what flavors to order?:blink: I don't have much time at the moment, but could you tell me what type of recipes you had in mind when...
  6. pinellaspete

    Flavors are real light, more steeping?

    Mick, Post a list of the flavors you have, and where you bought them and I'll try and help you with a recipe. Pete P.S. Let me know what level NIC you bought and what mg you vape.
  7. pinellaspete

    Flavors are real light, more steeping?

    That's what makes DIY so fun! It is YOUR choice what to add to your juices. This is how I might approach this question: What would the mix taste like if I did start to taste the acid I have chosen to use? Nuts plus vinegar = May not be too bad Nuts plus lemon = Probably not too good Cream...
  8. pinellaspete

    Flavors are real light, more steeping?

    You are correct Good Dog! As long as the acids are the same the sour taste will not multiply. Pete
  9. pinellaspete

    Flavors are real light, more steeping?

    I have only used Apple Cider Vinegar but I don't think it really matters. As long as you use 2 drops or less per 5ml you shouldn't taste it. But I do recommend using 2 drops per 5ml. In my tests I could just start tasting the vinegar at 3 drops per 5ml in an unflavored mix. Other people have...
  10. pinellaspete

    Vinegar?

    I don't think many people know about this unless they are actually flavorists in the food and beverage industry. It is incredibly hard to find this information anywhere on the internet. I think they hold this information close to their vests. Trade secrets and all that knowledge is power kind of...
  11. pinellaspete

    Vinegar?

    From what I understand it works with all the acids listed above. In the food industry it is mainly used as a combination of citric and malic acid. Citric acid costs quite a bit more than malic acid, so they cut some of the citric acid content and add malic acid as a replacement. By combining the...
  12. pinellaspete

    Vinegar?

    You can also use different combinations of acids. I haven't tried it yet though. But a word of caution... It is my understanding that when you use two different acids together, you get more sour taste than if you used just one acid. It is a trick that is used in the professional food flavoring...
  13. pinellaspete

    Vinegar?

    Okay...I'm still experimenting with these acids. The following describes the effects that the various acids have on flavor perception. The acid you choose to use should compliment the flavor that you are using. This is copied from another source, it is not my description: Acid Flavor Effects...
  14. pinellaspete

    Finetuning my next blend

    Jimi D. you really do need to start playing with the acids. Perhaps something went wrong with your first test. I and many other people are having great results using them. I only use vinegar if it is a tobacco flavor mix. I use citric or malic acid if I have other flavors in the mix. Perhaps...
  15. pinellaspete

    Finetuning my next blend

    Apology accepted! Let's play nice. I'm sorry I got short with you also. Pete
  16. pinellaspete

    Finetuning my next blend

    Jimi D., Please check this link. It will only take 1 minute. Read the definition for E-Juice on this page. It gives their list of ingredients. Her's the link: Learn Thanks, Pete
  17. pinellaspete

    Finetuning my next blend

    Yeah...The Flavor maker you talked to Jimi D. doesn't want you to know that if you stabilize your juice you will be making better juice that needs less flavor and you won't be buying as much flavor from them. They are laughing all the way to the bank. I know for a fact some vendors use vinegar...
  18. pinellaspete

    Finetuning my next blend

    Jimi D. this is the DIY forum, most of us are here to help each other and learn how to improve our juices. It is not about buying flavor enhancers from vendors. That is why this is called the DIY forum Jimi D.! The DIY stands for DO IT YOURSELF! Jimi D. you seem to have a problem with me...
  19. pinellaspete

    BWB Malty and Backo users.... what is the common theme? Is there an ngredient that tastes like... filtered water?

    Yeah...What GoodDog said about the Malty. Str8V8ping has nailed the recipe for BWB Malty. He has 2 threads about it in the recipe forum. I too really like BWB Backo. I have 2 really good light tobacco recipes that are comparable to Backo. They are not exactly like Backo but are very similar...
  20. pinellaspete

    Did some new stuff today...

    Would you like a friend in Florida?:laugh: Pete
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