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  1. Thulium

    it doesn't look good for the city of Birmingham

    First they have to prove I was using an e-cigarette at all. With no ash, smoke, butts, or polycyclic aromatic hydrocarbons sticking to walls and fabric, there is no physical evidence of use. You say you saw me inhale something--are you sure I wasn't just chewing on my pen? You say you saw me...
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    New Zealand Researcher: Is Nicotine Getting a Bad Rap?

    Because it points in a direction the ANTZ are unwilling to go (toward solutions to public health issues that are not owned/operated/regulated/taxed or otherwise controlled by their employer/sponsor), they are ignoring a lot of informative data about addiction from the studies that have already...
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    Indianapolis Area Residents - URGENT

    They are not nicotine inhalers because they do not require nicotine to operate as intended--that would be like referring to "caffeine delivery liquids" instead of just calling them sugar-free sodas. Smoke-free electronic cigarettes (aka "SmokefreE-cigarettes" or "e-cigs") are so called...
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    Tobacco Harm Reduction Advocates and CASAA confront FDA and its TPSAC about risks of different tobacco/nicotine products

    That's why I suggested the warning above. Congress directed the FDA to develop larger warning labels on cigarettes to use, I believe, 40% of the space of the pack. Why not simply list any and all diseases for which there is epidemiological data that shows a statistically significant (RR > 2)...
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    Tobacco Harm Reduction Advocates and CASAA confront FDA and its TPSAC about risks of different tobacco/nicotine products

    Those "warnings" are so close to meaningless, I personally don't much care if they remain on smokeless products that have not been shown to reduce risks. ANY product "can" cause mouth cancer, gum disease, or tooth loss. Nothing is safe in absolute terms, and just about any recreational product...
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    Study by prohibitionists finds e-cigarettes reduce cigarette consumption 40% among first time users, but authors misrepresent findings

    It seems that Dr. Rees has forgotten that this study specifically looked at smokers who were NOT willing to quit. The evidence shows that despite their unwillingness to quit, and without anything in the study encouraging these smokers to quit or cut down, they smoked 40% few cigarettes. How...
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    It is IMPORTANT to Vape in PUBLIC

    Impossible. One person becoming free of the risks and effects of smoking outweighs even the most draconian--but entirely unenforceable--smoke-free tobacco ban. If smoking bans actually helped people stop smoking, they might be justified. There is no reason to be so afraid of an impending...
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    Study by prohibitionists finds e-cigarettes reduce cigarette consumption 40% among first time users, but authors misrepresent findings

    When you are completely full of "it", elimination does seem to become the priority. ;)
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    FDA sends letter to e-cigarette company(ies) requesting info on adverse events

    I strongly suspect that it is one of the actual e-cigarettes the FDA used in their preliminary tests on SmokingEverywhere & Njoy's cartridges. On the same page there is a photo of the FDA finding... nothing but a small percentage of nicotine in the actual vapor. I tend to doubt that those...
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    Pyramid Malls banning all forms of smoking on properties INCLUDING E-Cigs and vendors

    The best way that I've learned to refrain from insulting or demeaning someone without becoming silly or over-reaching, is to simply remember to always put the PERSON before the belief, culture, race, religion or disability. Every human being is a lot more than whatever arbitrary category they...
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    Has anti-smoking movement gone too far?

    It's given a pass because they use the carefully chosen "safe" word. The statement is technically true that there's no safe exposure because NOTHING is completely safe so the FDA has not established any safe level. However, just because no safe level has been established doesn't mean that any...
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    Has anti-smoking movement gone too far?

    Because the worse you make people feel about their inability to permanently abstain from recreational nicotine/tobacco, the more likely they are to feel so ashamed and worthless that they'll believe it is their duty to pay exorbitant taxes and/or buy expensive drugs to treat diseases caused by...
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    FDA sends letter to e-cigarette company(ies) requesting info on adverse events

    The entire e-cigarette is jammed into the charger by the cartridge, rather than the battery. Anyone who knows anything about using e-cigarettes knows that you don't recharge the atomizer and cartridge, but just the battery. The picture is evidence of how little the FDA understands about the...
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    Pyramid Malls banning all forms of smoking on properties INCLUDING E-Cigs and vendors

    Living in a state that pretty much banned all indoor smoking except in private residences several years ago, and with properly sheltered smoking areas being reduced rather than INCREASED to reasonably accommodate people displaced by the indoor ban, here's what I do: I only "pretend to smoke"...
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    Airplane Turned Around today because of an E-Cig User.... Grrrr

    He gives anyone suffering from an untreated psychological disorder a bad name too. Having been bailed out of jail earlier that day, going nuts on a flight attendant who told him he couldn't "light" his e-cig was not the worst thing he's alleged to have done that week.
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    FDA sends letter to e-cigarette company(ies) requesting info on adverse events

    No, that is the actual picture the FDA included in their report on preliminary tests on 18 e-cigarette cartridges from SmokingEverywhere & Njoy. I think they've tried to claim it was a joke--I'm pretty certain it was not intentional, but I do have to admit it cracks me up every time! :lol:
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    Vermont -- H. 747 would ban online sales to non-retailers -- $5,000 fine per violation

    Yup! The more vendors capitalize on the opportunity to educate the public about their products whenever a ban or unreasonable tax or regulation is proposed, the LESS likely it is that Anti Nicotine/Tobacco Zealouts will propose them without any evidence to support their position. Eventually...
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    Innokin Electronic Cigarette Passes New German Food and Feed Act

    You make an interesting point, but I'm not sure it holds up. If someone had access to 100% nicotine, cyanide or bleach, it seems like there's a lot more dangerous places you could put it than an e-cig atomizer. I'm not a toxicologist, but it seems like even mixing 100% nicotine (or anything...
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    Tobacco Control Act. We must find a middle ground

    Because we are talking about a product that purports to replace the act of lighting something on FIRE and inhaling the SMOKE--an activity that is a natural threat to health and safety. I don't see anyone saying that e-cigs are safe. NOTHING in existence is safe. E-cigarettes and other...