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    Since Nicotine can be sourced from other plants in the Nightshade family....

    And the question in my mind remains- WHY do they insist on all sorts of tomfoolery to prevent us from using tobacco (nicotine derived from it) in OUR way, when it's still perfectly legal for us to use the same drug THEIR way (cigarettes, NRT.) The money trail is not hard to find. Ande
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    Institute of Medicine committee report on Modified Risk Tobacco Products to be released today

    Obviously, in the absence of smoke free products, quitting outright is what most smokers do. For ****'s sake. How many years (or decades) of data does it take to prove this is a LIE. Still, it's not the worst news we've heard. So far, no health claims can be made, but otherwise business as...
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    anybody else not keep track of their quit date?

    Agree with all- NOT SMOKING matters plenty. When you stopped, matters less if at all. I know about when, but not the day- it was late March, I'd just stopped smoking in my study. (It's separate from the rest of the apartment, but the smell travelled a little. Wife was pregnant, and the smell...
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    Institute of Medicine committee report on Modified Risk Tobacco Products to be released today

    THank you Bill for your tireless work. I have no faith at all in the IOM, for a variety of reasons, but...gotta try. THank you, Ande
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    Question for you high volt users?

    What he said. And, if you're stacking two rcr123as (16340s) to get 6 volts, you're probably getting a fair bit more than six when they first come off the charger. (I think those are 3.5 or 3.6 volts hot off the charger- soemthing like that, anyway) So in your six volt vape, you're really...
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    Dumb Question

    For what it's worth, I don't actually vape anything VV- too many electronics are easy to break and hard to fix or get fixed. But changing voltages (I use different devices and different battery combos to do this) makes a real difference to the vape. It may help to think of all your gear in...
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    Since Nicotine can be sourced from other plants in the Nightshade family....

    In any case- regulations on pharmaceutical nicotine are not dependant on the source. As is, there's a good chance the "tobacco product" category may stick. If it were "alternative" source nicotine, I think we'd actually be more likely to see a "drug/delivery device" combination stick. And...
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    Non-Face-to-Face Sale and Distribution of Tobacco Products and Advertising, Promotion, and Marketing of Tobacco Products Deadline Extended to Jan. 19t

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    New vaper, here. i have a quick question

    All good advice- I started with a joye 510, and it was good. Or good enough. I'll put in a plug, though- egos and rivas somehow manage to look big in the pictures. They really aren't. And the little minis and penstyles manage to look smaller than they are. For my money, if I were starting...
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    Dumb Question

    1.5 ohm atty on a 3 volt battery (Where do you get a 3 volt battery?) is going to hit at approximately 6 watts, which is weak for what most people like. (This is approximate- batteries don't really fire at the voltage they are labeled at too often.) You calculate by using volts x volts/ohms. A...
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    FDA may soon propose regulation that could ban many/most e-cigarette products, eliminate many/most companies

    YES. Numbers do count. If we don't hang together, we'll hang separately. Hang in there, Ande
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    FDA may soon propose regulation that could ban many/most e-cigarette products, eliminate many/most companies

    Welcome to the thread, Pigelty. The night is not as black as all that. Read back through the whole thread when you have time, or search posts by Bill Godshall. (One of the more politically savvy harm reduction guys, if you haven't come across him yet.) The regulation we're looking at is NOT...
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    FDA petition

    If you try to sign it again, it will tell you that you've already signed. SO...if you're not sure if you have or not, sign it now. If you already have, no harm no foul. Ande (I know, cause I tried to sign this one twice. :oops:)
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    FDA may soon propose regulation that could ban many/most e-cigarette products, eliminate many/most companies

    And another bump, with a suggestion. This is something we need to be talking about, a LOT. (to everybody we can) Let's not clutter up the thread with extraneous talk about what we think about occupy, pepper spray, or anything else. I'm afraid it could divide us or convince some people whose...
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    My story...my fears

    PS- Tobaccopolypse would be a cool name for a rock band.
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    My story...my fears

    An outright ban is extremely unlikely in my opinion. Restrictions that really limit choice and availability of a lot of the best stuff are...not terribly unlikely, as far as I can see. SO...you've just enlisted. We have a fight on our hands. Join CASAA. Write to your representatives. Get your...
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    Laboratory study needs experienced electronic cigarette users

    Hey Dr E- Not much time to quote hunt at the moment, but will try later. I think the "just like puffing on an unlit cigarette" line, widely attributed to you, is one of the things that gave the impression that your research led you to conclude ecigs were unlikely to help smoking cessation. I...
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    Phillips vs Eissenberg

    I hear you Rolygate. And, if it comes to it, count me in. I will perpetrate any number of blackmarket crimes before I surrender the means and benefits of tobacco harm reduction. It is hyperbole- Markets tend to grow exponentially in the beginning. When Hon Lik walked out of his lab and...
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    FDA petition

    I think I signed it. It finally says I did. The page seems not to like the fact that I'm listing a US address (where I have legal and occasional residence) in spite of being on an overseas internet server. Best, Ande
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    E-cigarettes may contain dangerous chemicals

    Some of John Polito's ideas about addiction are sort of distasteful to me, but...he seems like a smart man. Smart and honest are both rare commodoties in tobacco control. Here's hoping... Best, Ande
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