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  1. Sundodger

    FDA opens comment periods on two issues regarding Substantial Equivalence Requirements

    Well big guy, why aren't you posting all of this information that you know of right here on ECF? Did you give us a notice of the SSF meeting? Why not? So you think CASAA should know immediately when these cities do this. I'll bet this wasn't even on the public agenda until today, hard to know...
  2. Sundodger

    FDA opens comment periods on two issues regarding Substantial Equivalence Requirements

    I've found in 56+ years that those that claim to be free thinkers, tolerant and deeply caring of all things are usually the least open minded or deeply caring. It's just a way for them to feel good about themselves. I on the other hand have my prejudices and am well aware of them. Some are for...
  3. Sundodger

    Wis. radio talk show discusses state bill that would make e-cigs seperate from tobacco laws.

    This talk show is from Green Bay but is heard in a good portion of the state, especially central and northern parts of the state. It's in two parts, the first part doesn't start talking about e-cigs until around 6:15 into the segment. http://wtaq...
  4. Sundodger

    FDA opens comment periods on two issues regarding Substantial Equivalence Requirements

    In some peoples world, a snail is slimy and has a shell, it IS a snail. A raw egg is slimy and has a shell, it too MUST be a snail.
  5. Sundodger

    can anyone else in Minnesota (or other very cold mid west areas) relate to this right now?

    Yup, cold weather is definite problem with these. Just wait until you try taking one out ice fishing, it ain't pretty.
  6. Sundodger

    FDA opens comment periods on two issues regarding Substantial Equivalence Requirements

    I totally understand this, that was the point, why was this passed? To protect big money, no way are they going to allow the FDA to shut down BT. Like I said at the end of the OP, follow the money.
  7. Sundodger

    Why the FDA can NOT make illegal E-Cigs (false concern), Usage Bans in Public are the REAL problem

    Celebrating the new law in Colorado?
  8. Sundodger

    Why the FDA can NOT make illegal E-Cigs (false concern), Usage Bans in Public are the REAL problem

    Contradict yourself much? "The FDA has issued its Deeming regulation" "Here is the Deeming Regualtion Proposal" So which is it, issued or proposed? Then you set yourself up for Libel by stating something that CASAA had NEVER stated. "It is a strong counter to the theories being sold by...
  9. Sundodger

    FDA opens comment periods on two issues regarding Substantial Equivalence Requirements

    This from the guy who today on January 2, 2014 had to google Stanton Glantz? I'm terribly disappointed, well, not really. The poster asked you a question, why are you so worried about this if nothing is going to happen? You should be asking why can't the FDA outlaw analogs? Try following the...
  10. Sundodger

    Why the FDA can NOT make illegal E-Cigs (false concern), Usage Bans in Public are the REAL problem

    Libel is defamation, just in print, written or in pictures there Perry Mason. I'd like to see that bunch try and show how she libeled them, that would be better than the O.J. trial and expose this bunch for what they are. And for you, on January 2, 2014 to "quickly look up Stanton Glantz" is a...
  11. Sundodger

    Why the FDA can NOT make illegal E-Cigs (false concern), Usage Bans in Public are the REAL problem

    In this context the ban is already in place. And like taxes, bans/laws are seldom repealed, especially major taxes and laws. The last major one I can think of was 21 to 18 year old drinking laws in the U.S.. Those laws were repealed only because the U.S. was in Vietnam and there was a draft...
  12. Sundodger

    Why the FDA can NOT make illegal E-Cigs (false concern), Usage Bans in Public are the REAL problem

    So without the people and groups putting pressure on Congress do you think they would be punting at all? It took the lawsuit to stop them once, without someone fighting this they would just do what they want, IMO. I say now is not the time to back off, now is the time to continue the pressure on...
  13. Sundodger

    FDA opens comment periods on two issues regarding Substantial Equivalence Requirements

    Really? Ever think that maybe, just maybe those fears got people to contact their Reps/Senators and relay their fears, that without such changes that the FDA would just do what they want? Without the people contacting and putting pressure on the pols do you think the FDA just willy nilly came...
  14. Sundodger

    Why the FDA can NOT make illegal E-Cigs (false concern), Usage Bans in Public are the REAL problem

    While I'd agree in some other threads there has been questioning. The OP's statements where outright allegations and attacks against CASAA and Bill. Had he came here and QUESTIONED what they were doing instead of attacking from the start he might have more credibility in his stance. And yes...
  15. Sundodger

    Why the FDA can NOT make illegal E-Cigs (false concern), Usage Bans in Public are the REAL problem

    Tom, are you a lobbyist, pro or con to this subject? If you are I'll remind you of this: Section 6 of the Lobbying Disclosure Act (LDA), 2 U.S.C. § 1605, provides that: The Secretary of the Senate and the Clerk of the House of Representatives shall "provide guidance and assistance on the...
  16. Sundodger

    Why the FDA can NOT make illegal E-Cigs (false concern), Usage Bans in Public are the REAL problem

    Some had flavors but more importantly they had colors when flavored. I used them between construction jobs for making pretty little origami figures. See those papers had different uses for different people. Not the intent of what the FDA saw. They took away my lively hood when I was laid off. No...
  17. Sundodger

    Why the FDA can NOT make illegal E-Cigs (false concern), Usage Bans in Public are the REAL problem

    Tell that to some of the rolling paper manufacturers, they had to pull products off the market and are now limited as to what they can sell without the blessings from on high. Please, pay attention to history and learn from it. If you (we) don't, we will repeat the same mistakes.
  18. Sundodger

    Why the FDA can NOT make illegal E-Cigs (false concern), Usage Bans in Public are the REAL problem

    That's good NEWS? Blu=BT ya know. OK, now I get it. UFO's are real and that government entity call the Air Force doesn't exist. Cool.
  19. Sundodger

    Why the FDA can NOT make illegal E-Cigs (false concern), Usage Bans in Public are the REAL problem

    St Jude, where are you?
  20. Sundodger

    Godshall goes to the White House and Congress urging them to not let FDA give the e-cig industry to Big Tobacco

    "I am a fellow, and messenger of none but myself, if you have an retort of fact, or a problem with message, do share. Seems you won't Either what I wrote stands on its own or it does not. I am available to reply to substance...but will pass on most of the trolls attempting to march in line with...
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