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  1. Sundodger

    Bill Godshall urges opposition to FDA deeming reg at FDLI conference because it would give e-cig industry to Big Tobacco

    PAY ATTENTION to the above quote people! This is without question the most important line of how we can at least slow, if not totally STOP this crap! And it's sad to say, it's not just about NRT's or Harm Reduction Products, it's about almost everything in our lives as we know it today. I could...
  2. Sundodger

    CASAA @ Chicago Vape Bash!

    Then you and I are on the same page. We need to let the area know that we have say so with our wallets, otherwise they will smile while we are there and then just go along with what ever is passed against us. They have to realize they also have a dog in this hunt.
  3. Sundodger

    CASAA @ Chicago Vape Bash!

    I understand all the responses to my post, #6 in this thread. I understood the circumstances that the Chicago club was up against, having scheduled the event and then the bans being passed in Chicago. In large metro areas you can call a suburb a different name, but it's still within the...
  4. Sundodger

    Should e-cigarettes be taxed? Great common sense, fact based article.

    Page 274 of the article states: Out of 1,300 college students, only 43 said that their first nicotine product was an e-cigarette. One of those went on to initiate regular smoking. 59 I would think that this student probably picked up regular cigs because at the time ecigs were looked at as...
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    The latest from a well-known nutjob

    This fits right in with their agenda. Outlaw nicotine and the delivery device (bullets and firearms in this case) in one fell swoop. Don't worry about the lead poisoning. :)
  6. Sundodger

    I have been selected for an FDA e-cig study

    Check your state law. Some states such as Wisconsin (where I am) allow you to record ANY conversation you are a party to. If they have such a study here I would record every word. If it's allowed in VA then record it just in case they play funny with the questions. You can get lapel type...
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    CASAA @ Chicago Vape Bash!

    Really a shame that it was held in an area of the country that is coming out with some of the most restrictive regulations. Maybe the organizers need to rethink where to bring their money to in the future. There are many friendlier convention areas available.
  8. Sundodger

    CASAA Website Has Poor Rating on Web of Trust - We Need to Fix This

    I'm all in.
  9. Sundodger

    Philadelphia's Mayor Nutter Bans Vaping

    Well, I guess I'll get slapped for this but here goes, ""We don't know yet what effects e-cigarette vapor may have on their users or on the people around them, but we do know that e-cigarette vapor has been found to contain nicotine," said Nutter" "but we do know that e-cigarette vapor has...
  10. Sundodger

    CDC looking for exsmokers who were dual users of e-cigs, smokeless tobacco or cigars and were diagnosed with serious health condition

    EVERYONE needs to link this in a message to their Senators and Representatives and ask them to find out just what the (self moderated) kind of study is this? A predetermined outcome is NOT a study.This whole CDC, FDA and the rest of the alphabet money grabbers needs to be looked at real hard by...
  11. Sundodger

    Wisconsin Updates? Wisconsin Updates?

    In other years when the session is almost complete, bills that have come out of committee but not made it for a floor vote are considered in separate, grouped together resolutions. I'm guessing that they put all the bills that hadn't made it to the floor that they wanted defeated into Resolution...
  12. Sundodger

    Hold on to yer hats, here comes the BIG one...E-Cigs linked to C A N C E R !!!

    From Abstract B16: "The lower nicotine concentration was selected to mimic the average plasma nicotine levels in ENDS users and did not demonstrate toxic or anti-proliferative effects on the cells. The higher concentration was chosen to represent the anticipated nicotine levels to which the...
  13. Sundodger

    So here's the problem with the media and America.

    You must not like your birds very much. :)
  14. Sundodger

    4/3-6/14 - BREAKING: CASAA Pres. Keller retires, PLS THANK; Hancock Co. IN/St.Joe.MO/DelMar CA *TUES*; Turk.,UK,Ca.,US: MA,NY,NJ,PA,NC,FL,OH,IN,IL,TX,

    I can't post on CASAA's site because I don't have the accounts to do it....so...... THANKS!!!!!!ELAINE!!!!!!!!!! And much luck to you Julie. I haven't been a member of ECF or CASAA very long, but in the time I have it has been a wonderful learning experience (though scary at times) because of...
  15. Sundodger

    IL government trying to ban both ecigs and eliquid...

    Not to worry, you all can just stock up when you come up to Lambeau to watch the Packers. :) Seriously, Ill. can and will pass some of the craziest laws known in the free world. And it's mostly coming from the population center of Chicago. If the rest of the state had their way it would be a...
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    What is wrong with you?

    I'm sorry but this post reminds me of the old story of the cannibal passing his friend in the jungle. Emphasis on PASSING.
  17. Sundodger

    Believe me, I wouldn't hit "like" if I didn't like it! I just can't believe people don't...

    Believe me, I wouldn't hit "like" if I didn't like it! I just can't believe people don't understand the underlying cause of much of the turmoil in this country. Chip away a little here and there, until everything is under total control. We would never have the country we have today under those...
  18. Sundodger

    What is wrong with you?

    WOW! Shows how often I get to the General area....how'd I miss this discussion. Nothing to add except I'm on the side of not allowing any more rights go down the drain in this country, whether it be vaping where I want, personal protective devices, as many as I want and the ability to supply...
  19. Sundodger

    Sales of "tanks and e-liquid" growing significantly faster than sales of "cigalikes"

    She's with Wells Fargo, investment group, or something like that. She's written numerous articles about the ecig business from the investment side, not pro or con to vaping itself. You need to search investments and ecigs, you'll find what you are questioning. I'd look it up myself but I need to...
  20. Sundodger

    International expert panel convened by the Independent Scientific Committee on Drugs says cigarettes far more harmful than smokefree tobacco/nicotine

    No the Product related mortality is scored at 27. The ENDS total score looks to be just under 5. The last line in the study is the one I like the most. "Attempts to use other forms of nicotine such as ENDS and NRT to reduce cigarette smoking should be encouraged as the harms of these products...
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