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  1. Sundodger

    Legacy urges FDA to ban all e-cigs by “immediately” imposing the “deeming” regulation, makes more false fear mongering claims

    This is the way I look at it. The congress is the ring master in this circus. There is only one ring and all that is in that ring is a snake. The head of the snake is the FDA, the body consists of many parts, BP and all anti-tobacco feeding parts. The tail of the snake is BT, it's just going...
  2. Sundodger

    surgeons new report on the dangers of smoking

    Jeeze, don't giv'em any ideas....shhhhhuuuuuu!
  3. Sundodger

    City ordinance ban looming in Chicago

    The quote you quoted (“Having worked with the FDA, having encouraged them to take steps to protect individuals and children, they are usually an agency that leads from behind,”) is not from Stanton Glantz, it is from Mayor Rahm Emanuel, who was nose deep with the FDA while serving at the White...
  4. Sundodger

    Legacy urges FDA to ban all e-cigs by “immediately” imposing the “deeming” regulation, makes more false fear mongering claims

    Absolutely, I'm one also. I smoked 2-3 PAD for over 30 years, non filter Pall Malls (thank you U.S. Army), tried everything to quit, best was 2 years cold turkey, then stupidity set in again. Now most days I do 1-2 cigs, some days none, other days up to 4. But nothing like I was just several...
  5. Sundodger

    Legacy urges FDA to ban all e-cigs by “immediately” imposing the “deeming” regulation, makes more false fear mongering claims

    Well by looking at the citations at the bottom of the pdf it explains where they got their "information" from, only more of the same from the same bunch that has skin in the game. If you doubt it look at those citations. And then to save some time here is a copy job from the bottom of the...
  6. Sundodger

    E-Cigs: The New Gateway Drug?!

    This whole gateway argument has major flaws in it, just the opposite is usually the truth of the matter. In the Army I was a DAES (drug, alcohol, education specialist), being in Europe we had to deal with things a little different. While the UCMJ was what was mostly used in criminal cases and...
  7. Sundodger

    Chicago Tribune opposing articles 01-15-14

    This needs a lot of fixing for sure, here I'll help: Stanton A. Glantz is a failed professor of mechanical engineering, so he hitched his wagon to a golden goose with the University of California at San Francisco and the American Legacy Foundation's distinguished professor of tobacco control...
  8. Sundodger

    ***California Assembly bill to BAN SHIPMENT OF E CIGARETTES TO ANYONE IN CALIFORNIA***

    LOL, say it ain't so, good grief, where do they find these people. GREAT CATCH!!!!
  9. Sundodger

    Senators slam e-cigs at Golden Globes

    bruiser, just to be clear, I liked your post, only because that you posted the link, I did NOT like, in any way what I read in the link. How can anyone, in the position that these people are in, even think about putting their names to such crap. Bad night to stop drinking, Prost!
  10. Sundodger

    Are they serious...50 years of progress cuts smoking rates in half

    After reading the entire link, I must agree. The well intentioned Dr. needs to seek out some help, before he has an influence on our health choices. ;-(
  11. Sundodger

    FDA opens comment periods on two issues regarding Substantial Equivalence Requirements

    I find it hard, after all that a certain poster said about CASAA and Bill Godshall that you now think that somehow CASAA and Bill Godshall need to rise above the fray. Many posts were written dissing them before anyone fired back. Prior to anyone firing back at the poster, the poster took quotes...
  12. Sundodger

    FDA opens comment periods on two issues regarding Substantial Equivalence Requirements

    If you went forward without their blessings you could take it to court and maybe win, but you would still be found in violation of going forward without their approval. And the small eliquid manufactures WILL have to go by the same rules or the big boys will file suit against the FDA showing...
  13. Sundodger

    Hayward CA, to define Vape as “Smoke” Ban usage in Parks, add Fees & Inspections, New Regs, Goal to CLOSE Vape shops. Urgency Ordinance Meeting 1/14/

    Well after two days I guess tom finally came up with something, I'll give him that. But my opinion (and it's just that) is a good post or speech is like a woman's dress: Long enough to cover the subject, yet short enough to get my attention. In other words I really don't need chest pumping...
  14. Sundodger

    FDA opens comment periods on two issues regarding Substantial Equivalence Requirements

    I won't get lulled by the FDA doing nothing at this point. The FDA is the ones saying they will do something on such and such a date, not CASAA or Bill. CASAA and Bill are only letting us know what the FDA is putting out there. So it seems when the FDA doesn't do anything some people believe...
  15. Sundodger

    FDA opens comment periods on two issues regarding Substantial Equivalence Requirements

    Here ya go tom, because you must have missed it the first time. Note where Bill includes dates and such things, they are important, not just willy nilly predictions.
  16. Sundodger

    FDA opens comment periods on two issues regarding Substantial Equivalence Requirements

    Page 12, post 111, right above a post by you.
  17. Sundodger

    Glass vs plastic tanks. What's the difference?

    I don't know about that. By the looks of your avatar you've got a plastic tank on fire and melting, better check that out. :)
  18. Sundodger

    Glass vs plastic tanks. What's the difference?

    Anyone using glass tanks and worried about them cracking when dropped, you can buy online/B&M's rubber rings to go around them to help protect them. I just go to the hardware store and buy cheap O rings. I don't care what they look like they are cheap and do the trick. Hell, I don't care what I...
  19. Sundodger

    JAMA launches assault on e-cigs to lobby for FDA regulations, fails to dislcose Big Pharma conflicts of interest

    Hey fellow vapers. If you scroll all the way to the bottom there is a "contact us" line. It only allows for 1000 characters but anything is always better than nothing. I sent comments for each individual article. Copied what they said was untrue or a stretch and pointed it out. Like where they...
  20. Sundodger

    FDA opens comment periods on two issues regarding Substantial Equivalence Requirements

    THE ABOVE QUOTE IS NOT REAL, FOR DEMONSTRATION PURPOSES ONLY, DO NOT ATTEMPT AT HOME!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! Note the quote above Jay-dub, that quote is attributed to you by me clicking the "reply with quote" feature here. To anyone that hasn't read this entire thread and just seeing my post...
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