When I started, I needed 18 - 24 mg. Eventually, after giving up analogs for a while, I cut back to 12 -18 mg. Then I forced myself to 6 mg. - only took a couple of days. Now, after a period of adaptation, 4 - 6 mg. is fine. PS You can buy ($15 for 120 ml) VG flavored any way you want it at...