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    vaping complaint from customer

    Yeah, really this whole debate (and it's been fun!) revolves around that phrase, "dining area." If it's true that staff at the OP's restaurant have been vaping in the dining room with customers present, then that's pretty cut-and-dried. If it's not true, and if the letter's complaint is based...
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    vaping complaint from customer

    Right, and most definitely not in a self-styled health-food restaurant. NiNi's got a point too, though, with regard to general business practices. The customer most definitely is not always right, and it is not only entirely possible to run a successful business without catering to every...
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    vaping complaint from customer

    And I'd read the curricula and realize they had taken over. ;)
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    vaping complaint from customer

    Understood, and no problem. I apologize if it seemed like I was overreacting. To your previous point, there's a difference between an employee knowingly misbehaving in front of a customer, and an employee conducting personal or otherwise unprofessional business with every reasonable...
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    vaping complaint from customer

    Yes, that's why it's generally good practice to create an intangible wall between the employee hangout areas and the customers' area (the BAR), even when the restaurant's closed. There really is a fine line between creating a healthy and friendly working environment, and turning it into an...
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    vaping complaint from customer

    I think the bolded section (emphasis mine, by the way) is the main point of contention here, and frankly I think both sides (including me) are projecting a little on that point. The reality is that there are shades of ambiguity in everything we say. If you're asking whether cooks should vape...
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    vaping complaint from customer

    Antagonizing? I don't think so; I certainly didn't intend to come off that way. And with all due respect, I think you and I read the context of that exchange differently.
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    vaping complaint from customer

    Right, but I think it's important to differentiate between what are (IMO) two slightly different conversations here. On the one hand, it's unprofessional for restaurant staff knowingly to vape -- OR use their cell phones, OR eat, OR drink, OR any number of other things -- in full view of...
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    obamacare and vaping?

    30 hours a week of paid work @ ~30-40 cents per mile, and the privilege of living in a truck for 12 days out of every 14. Yeah, that's no good at all. No surprise, though; the trucking industry is one of the most abusive in existence, and for all of the heady talk about workers' rights, no...
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    vaping complaint from customer

    Why shouldn't they vape if vaping is safe otherwise, and if they're out of sight of the customer and practice good hygiene generally? When I was in the kitchen, I washed my hands pretty much every time I touched anything remotely dirty or anything that wasn't directly related to the food I was...
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    vaping complaint from customer

    If the employee doesn't wash his hands, then that's a problem whether he vapes or not. There are countless ways to get your hands dirty in a kitchen; why should a PV be considered worse?
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    vaping complaint from customer

    Good point. Still, the kitchen isn't the dining area; the kitchen is generally out of sight of customers. So although some people might object in principle to the notion that employees vape in the kitchen, customers probably aren't going to know unless they go out of their way to see it...
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    vaping complaint from customer

    The letter says, "Back room and dining area." Given the tone of the rest of the letter, and the tone of this sort of discourse generally, it's unclear to me whether to take that last phrase seriously. I'm inclined to think that there's a little exaggeration going on, but YMMV. That said, a...
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    vaping complaint from customer

    Someone needs to get a life. The letter writer, I mean -- not you. :) Sadly, the world's full of people who get off on telling other people how to behave. That said, and with no offense intended, I'd expect to see more health-related scare mongering at a vegan restaurant than on average...
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    UberGreen Noobular questions - Halo Triton/G6 startup coming in a few days!

    Yeah, as I understand it, the Halo USB chargers cut off when the light turns blue. So you shouldn't have to worry about over-charging your batteries. I don't worry, anyway -- I've far too many things to worry about to sit around watching batteries on a charger. If I'm wrong and my habit...
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    New User w/ New Equipment Harsh Taste

    Nicotine concentration affects the harshness or what we call the "throat hit." That said, if you're trying to quit smoking it's probably best to start at higher concentrations and then slowly dial it down by diluting it than it is to start low. I think more importantly, though, you should...
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    Just quit analog..

    Welcome and congrats! Torque is definitely not for the faint of heart. Pleased don't be discouraged by the taste or harshness of any given juice flavor; tastes vary so much. There's no way to know ahead of time what will or will not agree with you. By the same token, don't be too quick to...
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    Halo manual batteries a no no

    As Caridwen says, most people around these parts seem to prefer the manual. Ultimately it's a matter of personal preference, though. For what it's worth, I liked the auto better than the manual when I first started, because it felt more like a cigarette to me. Within two days or so using...
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    halo nic level questions

    I walk with a limp now because my left pocket is so much lighter. :)
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    More benefits

    Great point, worth emphasizing. If anything I think I'm eating slightly less since I started vaping. The vapor appeases my sweet tooth. :)
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