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  1. Fulgurant

    GREAT article on the toxicity of nicotine!!

    The best way to convince anyone of anything is not to lose focus on what constitutes good-faith argument. Yes, there are dishonest arguers in the world, and there are those who respond best to emotional appeals, but even so, your best hope is to demonstrate your opponent's dishonesty by...
  2. Fulgurant

    GREAT article on the toxicity of nicotine!!

    I like the way you put that. In debate, the only rational course is to treat all comments as if they were meant to be relevant, and posed in good faith. Of course, not all comments will satisfy those criteria, but those criteria are nonetheless the baseline, the foundation on which any...
  3. Fulgurant

    Why the FDA can NOT make illegal E-Cigs (false concern), Usage Bans in Public are the REAL problem

    Ayup. Relevant: E-cigarettes are a tobacco product, so please stop wasting time arguing otherwise | Anti-THR Lies and related topics
  4. Fulgurant

    Why the FDA can NOT make illegal E-Cigs (false concern), Usage Bans in Public are the REAL problem

    Yep. Half of the mealy-mouthed justifications you hear for local bans feature the statement, "E-cigarettes don't have FDA approval." To ignore the link between the putative authority on all things safe and wholesome (FDA) and the pandering irrationality of self-important local officials is...
  5. Fulgurant

    GREAT article on the toxicity of nicotine!!

    The accumulation of power, the erosion of limitations on accumulated power, is always a slippery slope. That is the nature of power. Whether you believe that any particular concession is appropriate, necessary, or harmful, history teaches us that precedents investing legal power in the state...
  6. Fulgurant

    Why the FDA can NOT make illegal E-Cigs (false concern), Usage Bans in Public are the REAL problem

    It's become my favorite winter olympic event. No idea why. It's just relaxing, I guess. :)
  7. Fulgurant

    Why the FDA can NOT make illegal E-Cigs (false concern), Usage Bans in Public are the REAL problem

    That last line is a distortion of the position we've described to you now countless times. I even explicitly noted that FDA and other public-health organizations do not consciously set out with the goal of enriching big tobacco. The problem, as always, is that big regulations favor big...
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    Why the FDA can NOT make illegal E-Cigs (false concern), Usage Bans in Public are the REAL problem

    It's simple. Big Tobacco has the resources to deal with any regulations that come down the pike. Smaller concerns probably don't have those resources. Thus, the more onerous the regulations, the more likely it is that Big Tobacco will inherit the e-cig industry. Nicotine is derived from...
  9. Fulgurant

    GREAT article on the toxicity of nicotine!!

    Wonderful link, Aegis. Thanks.
  10. Fulgurant

    Thanks, patkin. I wish all the best to you and yours!

    Thanks, patkin. I wish all the best to you and yours!
  11. Fulgurant

    Legacy’s David Abrams acknowledges that e-cigs are “much less risky than cigarettes.” Has Legacy turned over a new leaf?

    Unfortunately, your sentiment -- though admirable -- runs directly counter to my experience. In this world, the larger and more powerful you are (and thus the greater the magnitude of your mistakes), the less accountable you are. A janitor who misplaces $20 in office equipment may get fired...
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    are cities being paid to ban? (x steveVape)

    LOL. El oh freaking el! This looks like a job for the world's tiniest violin: "Campaign for Tobacco-Free Kids, a national coalition focused on tobacco use prevention, is urging lawmakers in Vermont to review these settlement appropriations and to not empty the Tobacco Trust Fund. "'It is...
  13. Fulgurant

    Six US Senate Dems urge FTC to investigate “false, deceptive and misleading” e-cig marketing practices

    Six people claiming to be public servants move to endanger the health of potentially millions of their constituents. False advertising, indeed.
  14. Fulgurant

    MsTs Bakery Updates

    Sold the business to someone else who just happens to believe that the best customer service policy is aggressive neglect? Doubtful.
  15. Fulgurant

    Why certain regulations and bans make perfect sense

    It really wasn't that long ago, either. I think that's actually the major disconnect in a lot of discussions like this one; some of us regard widespread public-smoking bans as consequent to an unassailable cultural norm. Others of us believe the opposite -- that the supposed norm came as a...
  16. Fulgurant

    I can't believe they can do this!!

    You apparently announced that businesses "aren't allowed" to prohibit e-cig use. That's not questioning the policy; that's (incorrectly) questioning the business' right to make the policy. I'm all for respectful discussion of private business' vaping policies. If we are to win our little...
  17. Fulgurant

    I can't believe they can do this!!

    (Emphasis mine.) The OP wasn't just wrong; he was dead wrong. Short of refusing you service because of your gender or race, restaurant owners can do just about anything they want on their own property, reasonable or not. On the day that private businesses are disallowed from making their own...
  18. Fulgurant

    Study on ecig second hand vapor.

    Brain surgery is a little harsh, don't you think?
  19. Fulgurant

    University of Minnesota starting e-cig study

    From the news story: "'Although the majority of the products don’t contain toxicants that are cancer-causing, there are a few that do,” [Hatsukami] said. “There is a lot of variability out there.'" This woman either has access to information that no one else does, or she's referencing long...
  20. Fulgurant

    Local news Fear-Mongering electronic cigarettes...

    You get a like for your new avatar,,,,,,,,,,Holly. :)
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