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  1. NathanielFT

    Authentic makers sueing Cloners?

    If not you i bet others taking the moral high ground with vapegear have downloaded music or movies, jailbroken their iphone, bought a product from a company using illicit practices or something similar lol. Each to their own tho bud Sent from my iPhone using Tapatalk
  2. NathanielFT

    Authentic makers sueing Cloners?

    If you read my post properly (i know its long soz lol) you'd know its nothing to do with wanting charity. I fully hear that and respect your opinion, as we're on 2 different sides of the coin i guess we could discuss this forever. My sentiment is simple, if i can buy something as good or...
  3. NathanielFT

    Leave That Stuff On Facebook

    A voluntary tracking and personal information database Sent from my iPhone using Tapatalk
  4. NathanielFT

    Authentic makers sueing Cloners?

    Yes i've seen the socialist spiel posted many times on this forum but i think its just simple economics as stated by @Heldar above. The way the mod makers are choosing to operate as i described in the post you quoted, they are creating a gap in the market which cloners are filling. At the...
  5. NathanielFT

    Authentic makers sueing Cloners?

    A point mentioned in a vapor joes blog thats very true is that if these mod makers can fund a legal team with the power to do what they say they're doing then they are clearly making a healthy profit from vapegear and are not the struggling vaper juggling a hobby and 2 jobs and also a single mum...
  6. NathanielFT

    Authentic makers sueing Cloners?

    I know they are people inventing these things not robots and they are probably nice guys who will miss sales because of clones, but they aren't my friends and i don't owe them anything, it sounds harsh in writing but i'm just a consumer i've got options and only the mod maker can change the way...
  7. NathanielFT

    Authentic makers sueing Cloners?

    I'm not discussing the legitimacy of clones or doing that clone vs original bollox, i'm just saying that china is producing quality clones nowadays, they are getting better and better and will soon be bought not to be a 'sampler' to gauge an authentic purchase but bought in place of it - unless...
  8. NathanielFT

    Authentic makers sueing Cloners?

    If the high quality standard is set my the mod maker then the manufacturer's will adhere to it, just look at the rose v2 clone by pallas and a couple others, indistinguishable and interchangeable with the original, absolutely no difference or set backs next to the og, the slug clone that dropped...
  9. NathanielFT

    Authentic makers sueing Cloners?

    As the company skimmed bankruptcy they shifted production to the east to lower costs but kept the premium retail price, and slapped on some extra for the original made in England versions then rename them the 'vintage' range. Your Dr Martens are probably a representation of cheaper mass...
  10. NathanielFT

    Authentic makers sueing Cloners?

    Dr martens production was moved to the east because they nearly went bust, the west made (now premium version) are still available but the ones you bought are the cheaper ones. China will have loads different production plants with output quality ranging from crap to premium, depending upon how...
  11. NathanielFT

    Authentic makers sueing Cloners?

    You've confused me now, i read the reply prior to this as you believe it would carry a cost of $1bn to outsource production to china, which is what i found hilarious. The guys behind the mutation x RDA are not billionaires probably not even millionaires for that matter yet their atty was...
  12. NathanielFT

    Authentic makers sueing Cloners?

    :lol::lol::lol::lol::lol::lol::lol::lol::lol::lol::lol::lol::lol::lol::lol::lol::lol::lol::lol::lol::lol::lol::lol::lol::lol::lol::lol::lol::lol::lol::lol::lol::lol::lol::lol::lol::lol::lol: Sent from my iPhone using Tapatalk
  13. NathanielFT

    Authentic makers sueing Cloners?

    We are talking about ecigarettes right? If so yes, theres no advantages of them being batch produced in the west Sent from my iPhone using Tapatalk
  14. NathanielFT

    Authentic makers sueing Cloners?

    Not sure if your reply was sarcastic but i'll entertain it anyway - Whats the selling point of having something made in your home country? Does it make it better? A patriotic thing? All i know is China has the power to produce anything we can make in the west and many things we can't on a huge...
  15. NathanielFT

    Authentic makers sueing Cloners?

    Ha good luck suing cloners, if nike and rolex cant stop fakes what chance does a mod maker have who's a nobody in comparison even as a collective, they can only effect vendors thats it lol. The answer? Outsource production to China like every other successful hardware company, that'll bring...
  16. NathanielFT

    Leave That Stuff On Facebook

    Cloud chasing...it happens...get used to it...or look away...because it wont stop...;) Sent from my iPhone using Tapatalk
  17. NathanielFT

    Picture of Your Setup Part 2!

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  18. NathanielFT

    So anyone getting the new iPhone?

    Had iphone for the last few years but im unimpressed so far by the 6 or plus. Thinking about a note edge or the G3 Sent from my iPhone using Tapatalk
  19. NathanielFT

    Picture of Your Setup Part 2!

    I need a stumpy kit [emoji52] Sent from my iPhone using Tapatalk
  20. NathanielFT

    Which mod are you vaping with right now?

    My new favourite toy for now