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    Is Cloning Ethical?

    Possibly on your side of the conversation. Not a lot of other participants are equating "clone" with "counterfeit", as far as I can see. Merriam-Webster defines "counterfeit" as "made in imitation of something else with intent to deceive". The intent to deceive, to commit fraud in fact, is the...
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    The FastTech Thread For All FastTech Posts

    \ "In transit" means it's on a plane/train/truck somewhere, probably in the US...maybe in Customs in San Francisco. Or it may be winging its way over Alaska as you read this. Or not.
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    Is Cloning Ethical?

    You are mixing apples and oranges...faking somebody's logo is not what we were talking about, AFAIK . We were talking about clones, not counterfeits...
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    Is Cloning Ethical?

    Legally, if the creator does not apply for and receive a design or process patent, there is no "intellectual property". So the question of "theft" becomes moot. But Buzzlove above is quite right to point out that what is "legal" is not necessarily "ethical". However, what if I have no idea...
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    Is Cloning Ethical?

    So far this thread has references to wives, dogs, sports, health care, Rolexs, Nikes, various economies, globalization, capitalism, Wall Street, English usage and approximately 800 other things...and every once in a while we manage to mention vaping materials. It would indeed be interesting to...
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    questions about fasttech liquid

    FT sells authentic Liqua. It is subtle and excellent, to my taste. The Apple is amazing. I also like Dekang a lot, and have many flavours which I am very happy with, including Mango, Cola... Hangsen has an excellent reputation and is well-known for its flavour development. Its CEO is the...
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    Is Cloning Ethical?

    Ah, err, probably everything you own is a "clone"/copy/closely-inspired facsimile/recent developmental upgrade of something. Think about it. How many prototypes or hand-made 100% original-never-before-seen-or-mass-produced objects do we own and use everyday? How does technology spread? How...
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    The FastTech Thread For All FastTech Posts

    In honour of Ref's 5000th post and of my three-month vaping anniversary, I thought I would post a picture of my stuff...all acquired over the last 2 1/2 months from FT, with the exception of the little Ego. The little unbranded Ego + CE4 at the top is my original stop-smoking setup, bought...
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    The FastTech Thread For All FastTech Posts

    They weren't lying to you, they were telling you things you didn't want to hear. That happens in life. Did you open a support ticket for your non-delivered package?
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    SHipping to another country

    USPS registered airmail is a good way to ship. My packages come from FT via SingPost registered airmail and until now I haven't had any problems (knock on wood!). In my case, to Israel, DHL and other expedited services are ALWAYS opened by Customs. One of my friends tried to get some...
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    How Does Your Local Store Mix e-Juice?

    Good one, Ref. You beat me to it.
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    Docking Station/Storage and Construction update.

    What a great project! I wish you every success and lots of satisfaction! Keep us posted!
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    The FastTech Thread For All FastTech Posts

    Mine was shipped yesterday...:laugh:
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    The FastTech Thread For All FastTech Posts

    Saturday and Sunday are not business days. So the earliest your order could be shipped would have been Monday, if and only if all your stuff was i n stock and shipping that day. Did you check the shipping status of each item on your order? See top left - Orders- and go into your order to see...
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    The FastTech Thread For All FastTech Posts

    Yesterday I put in a support ticket for a similar issue with Singpost. FT tells me that right now the Singpost site is down for maintenance because of all the recent tracking errors. I imagine that the info we've been getting from Singpost hasn't been accurate. I'm just going to wait patiently...
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    Are there any made in USA E Cigarettes?

    E-liquid originated in China. The whole idea of a PG/VG carrier with nicotine in it was developed by Jide Yao, now of Hangsen. See Best Premium Electronic Cigarettes Brand Juice,Liquid Flavors|Hkhangsen.com More than 95% of the e-liquid used in the whole world comes from the big three...
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    KSD Issues Statement on Fasttech

    Ah, did you read what Ref Minor posted? Innokin's change of mind? Just go back up a couple of posts and you'll find it, but in case you don't feel like going back and reading the whole thread, no, you won't be getting a fake. FT's policy is that if they call it an Innokin, it IS an Innokin. If...
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    The FastTech Thread For All FastTech Posts

    Just ordered one, to try out. It should be shipping tomorrow... Pretty, shiny, pretty, shiny...no, I don't NEED one, I just WANT one (and happened to have some shop credit sitting in my account not doing very much.) :)
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    KSD Issues Statement on Fasttech

    Well, good for Innokin to have finally understood the incredible advertising it is getting from people buying from FT. Look at the discussions, the praise, the word-of-mouth surrounding its stuff now. Innokin couldn't buy that kind of reputation-building. There are no Innokin "authorized...
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    KSD Issues Statement on Fasttech

    I think he'll say the same thing he said last time, because the merchandising logic hasn't changed one iota. The manufacturers are still annoyed that FastTech is undercutting their MSRP. Fine, they can be annoyed. They're getting their cut just the way they were before. It's their...
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