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  1. BillyTheWild

    Why Vapers are getting a BAD NAME.

    But why is it that you always think it is about the so called ANTZ? Here I am, as an ex-smoker, current vaper, I don't hate nicotine, I don't demonize smokers, vapers, whatever. I just disagree with your concept of socially acceptable behaviors and degree of courtesy each of us should afford the...
  2. BillyTheWild

    Why Vapers are getting a BAD NAME.

    No. I've not argue the extreme like you have, e.g. with the radiation therapy cancer treatment: Appeal to Extremes Here is the problem, there is no room for discuss with you b/c you deem the things you believe in as "facts" as if you are talking about the sun rises from the East. We can't...
  3. BillyTheWild

    Why Vapers are getting a BAD NAME.

    Here you go again. You take my argument and apply it to every situation possible. Well, different situations have different set of decorum that is socially acceptable and unacceptable for the same behavior. Take for example in an arena during a sporting event, like you say. Sure in that...
  4. BillyTheWild

    Why Vapers are getting a BAD NAME.

    I don’t mean to sound as if ALL vapers on the pro-confrontation side do so in the antagonistic way. If I’ve given out that impression, I apologize. But at the same time, I have seen plenty of members who take the antagonistic approach with the attitude of “vape wherever you want and don't give...
  5. BillyTheWild

    Why Vapers are getting a BAD NAME.

    I don't want to dwell on the breathing thing anymore as my arguments are clearly laid out and I don't think we are going anywhere with that. Let's just say that we disagree on the logics. However, I do wanna comment on the music part. There is a difference when you voluntarily go to a club...
  6. BillyTheWild

    Why Vapers are getting a BAD NAME.

    There are quite a few vapers who think that confrontation with the general public is a good way to “educate” the “ignorant” people – the “Golden Opportunity” as someone puts it. I disagree. There are many ways to fight for one’s cause and confrontation is the least effective. Think about it...
  7. BillyTheWild

    Why Vapers are getting a BAD NAME.

    Why are people being labeled as ignorant when they disagree with your position on SHV’s harmfulness? Before I switched to vaping, I had done tons of research on it simply b/c I didn’t want to substitute one poison with another. And I continue to do research on this. So far, although I agree that...
  8. BillyTheWild

    Why Vapers are getting a BAD NAME.

    Maybe you’re right that I don’t know the whole radioactive thing. But even taking your words as the truth, still comparing vaping to radiation cancer treatment is an extreme. If we are to go to the extreme, then we should ban just about everything and every activity people use and do in modern...
  9. BillyTheWild

    Why Vapers are getting a BAD NAME.

    You seems to be saying that since the normal respiration and vaping are equal in the sense that “we have no way of knowing what's being put into the air”, then the 2 activities should enjoy the same privilege. To that, I’ll say that even if we agree that vaping and breathing are the same (which...
  10. BillyTheWild

    Why Vapers are getting a BAD NAME.

    Comparing vaping to normal respiration is unfair. One doesn’t have a choice to NOT breathe (inhaling and EXHALING) but on the other hand a vaper can choose not to vape. Respiration is a normal and vital bodily function while vaping is not. And, how about comparing vaping with gems and cooties...
  11. BillyTheWild

    Why Vapers are getting a BAD NAME.

    But they are “getting radiation and poisons pumped into” “their veins”, not yours. Nor are they spraying the “radiation and poisons” into the air for everyone to inhale. On the other hand, your vapor is in the air.
  12. BillyTheWild

    The myth of second hand vape

    Yes, do put your head in the sand. Still, you have been proved telling lies and false acussations ... nothing can change that. The :toast: tastes so good ... served icy cold!
  13. BillyTheWild

    The myth of second hand vape

    Your response is no surprise. Cowards and bullies usually have the bravado to dish out insults and false accusations but not the courage to admit their mistakes when they are proved wrong. I am good with your cowardice reply. You can go on with your merry way now for all I care. I'll have that...
  14. BillyTheWild

    The myth of second hand vape

    Baldr, I've changed my mind. I am waiting for your apology ... I think I deserve it. If you have the courage to apologize, I'll accept it and we'll have a :toast: together and we'll be good. How about it?
  15. BillyTheWild

    The myth of second hand vape

    Thank you for the vindication – whether this is your intention or not. There are many indirect references and a few direct references. The OP starts this thread to prove a point. Then Diogenes raises, IMO, a valid concern which is that long term studies are lacking. The debate becomes...
  16. BillyTheWild

    The myth of second hand vape

    OK. you wanna help him out? I'll make it easy for you. He accused me of saying that there are some posters who are against having ANY study done. I didn't say that. All I have said is that more studies, especially long term studies, are needed. Now, click on my user name and select "view forum...
  17. BillyTheWild

    The myth of second hand vape

    You can't simply accused someone of lying w/o proof. Why don't you just learn? I have just shown proofs that you lied but you can't me.
  18. BillyTheWild

    The myth of second hand vape

    Wow, first you accused me of arguing that people are against having ANY study done. When this false accusation didn’t work, now you change back to the phrase “more studies”. Talk about a slick chameleon you are! Or is it a lying sack of you-know-what.
  19. BillyTheWild

    The myth of second hand vape

    And, I don't need that apology from you... like I said, I don't have the time nor the patience for you, just pity.
  20. BillyTheWild

    The myth of second hand vape

    REALLY? I made a stupid argument? I denied what I said? OK, let’s see: Everyone can read that I said (Post #620) MORE STUDIES. Now, is the font size big enough for you to see? Everyone can read that YOU then twisted my words: (Post #655) So, who is denying the truth? YOU. So, who made a...
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