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  1. Lessifer

    New studies find carcinogens in vg and pg at high temps, even in tootle puffers

    Careful, it is my understanding that 100% of people who develop cancer have had some exposure to H2O in their lifetime.
  2. Lessifer

    Can non-smokers that vape potentially lead to real cigarettes?

    An aluminum coppervape bf mod, a frankenskull bf mod, and an odis atty clone. Gotta love fasttech. I believe they're all still in stock. I wanted a cheap bf mod for when I travel, so I don't have to worry about losing my REO.
  3. Lessifer

    Deeming Regulations have been released!!!!

    CASAA has dedicated people, and I try not to be disparaging. I was disappointed, though I understand their view in that they are not a "Vaping" advocacy group. I don't think all of the tools at our disposal are being utilized to their fullest, but I still send out their CTA's when I think it...
  4. Lessifer

    Can non-smokers that vape potentially lead to real cigarettes?

    You know, I was all smug in my non-shinyitis frame of mind, hadn't really bought anything vape related in over a year other than some liquid... and then I realized I had passed my four year mark, and had $60 in my paypal account, and ended up buying two mods and an RDA. My name is Lessifer and...
  5. Lessifer

    Deeming Regulations have been released!!!!

    Yup. I was told directly that not only are petitions useless, mine in particular was misguided because nicotine IS tobacco, and even trying to remove it from the TCA was detrimental to the tobacco harm reduction movement. Didn't stop me.
  6. Lessifer

    Deeming Regulations have been released!!!!

    Actually, my petition got pushback, from the advocacy groups, over the idea that vaping could and should be separated from tobacco. In addition to the notion that a petition is only valuable if it can directly cause a change.
  7. Lessifer

    Deeming Regulations have been released!!!!

    I'll admit freely that I don't understand what the actual concern is over the safety of WTA, if there is one. I assume that testing of the product could reveal if there is anything harmful in it, as long as they know what they're looking for. Is there a specific concern?
  8. Lessifer

    Deeming Regulations have been released!!!!

    Yes and no. The "vape community" and the vendors that serve the community have a very good relationship, even though things like diacetyl and food coloring aren't known to be problems, the response has been that there are options without those for people who want them. There's also a whole...
  9. Lessifer

    Deeming Regulations have been released!!!!

    Me too, I really do, but my "contribution" is limited to pockets of 1-? minutes in between other tasks, that can't be scheduled. Finding agreement on what vaping regulation SHOULD look like is a herculean task. Some vapers would be perfectly happy with the deeming, if it had the grandfather...
  10. Lessifer

    Deeming Regulations have been released!!!!

    I agree, it's completely arbitrary. Just discussing to see if this is something that could be turned into a viable solution. Any attempt to set standards without information that would directly impact what those standards should be is arbitrary. We don't know what needs to be kept out of...
  11. Lessifer

    Can non-smokers that vape potentially lead to real cigarettes?

    I'm afraid this is something we're just going to have to disagree on. The research that went into those decisions was biased, and inconclusive at best. Add to that the facts that cigarette ads can consist of little more than the brand name and packaging at this point, AND that this will be used...
  12. Lessifer

    Deeming Regulations have been released!!!!

    I admit I haven't followed this particular fight, but if the manufacturer were to submit chemical analysis to AEMSA are you saying they still wouldn't accept it? Again, I don't necessarily agree with adopting AEMSA standards as they are, it's a trade group and I've always believed that...
  13. Lessifer

    Deeming Regulations have been released!!!!

    I just hope that we are holding ALL of our representatives to task over this.
  14. Lessifer

    Can non-smokers that vape potentially lead to real cigarettes?

    I don't subscribe to the idea that advertising LEADS to smoking. I think it effects product choice, but not initiation. So, the bans don't make sense in the first place.
  15. Lessifer

    Consumer Product Safety Commission & vaping batteries regulation

    Yeah, if we're talking about the current law this is all pretty much moot.
  16. Lessifer

    Consumer Product Safety Commission & vaping batteries regulation

    At which point I would reiterate that this would likely have zero effect on what seems to be the concern coming from some in the vaping community.
  17. Lessifer

    Consumer Product Safety Commission & vaping batteries regulation

    That hasn't been the tone of this thread though. It would also have zero effect on people mishandling removable batteries or using batteries not rated for the way they are using them. I'm okay with that, but other seem to be asking for more.
  18. Lessifer

    Consumer Product Safety Commission & vaping batteries regulation

    I haven't seen what their requirements might be, but when people talk about the misrepresentation of specs on batteries currently on the market, I assume they're talking about the specs printed on the battery.
  19. Lessifer

    Deeming Regulations have been released!!!!

    I get it, Democrats are against vaping, not arguing against that generalization. Was there a unified Republican front in favor of Cole-Bishop? Perhaps I don't fully understand the power of the Democrat minority on the hill but, if people felt this was something worth fighting for, it would have...
  20. Lessifer

    Consumer Product Safety Commission & vaping batteries regulation

    My main concern with this is, for the manufacturers who don't currently label their batteries for resale, which would be all of the 18650's we use for the most part, who don't intend for their batteries to be used individually outside of battery packs, which is why they don't label them that...
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