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  1. Lessifer

    Cole-Bishop Failed. What now for vape?

    I understand short term fights, and needing to keep the industry alive long enough to fight. I really wish there was more of a push to separate nicotine from tobacco. We know the PMTA process will kill vaping, either quickly without a grandfather date change, or slowly with the date change as...
  2. Lessifer

    Can non-smokers that vape potentially lead to real cigarettes?

    It's that lead to bit that trips people up, I think. They say, of course nicotine is addictive, I smoked for decades and the only thing keeping me from smoking now is my nicotine. The order of events is very important in this case. Tobacco Control has done their job well though, so I'm sure...
  3. Lessifer

    New studies find carcinogens in vg and pg at high temps, even in tootle puffers

    I'm wondering if the full effect applies since what is being heated is a very small fraction of the liquid, just what's near the coil, and that is traveling up the wick and not sitting in a tank. Do pg/vg wick at different rates, and if so, does that have an effect on the composition of liquid...
  4. Lessifer

    Can non-smokers that vape potentially lead to real cigarettes?

    Hey now, I spent good money for that degree :P and I didn't even learn to cut hair.
  5. Lessifer

    Can non-smokers that vape potentially lead to real cigarettes?

    There's no real "definition" for addiction, it's a psychology thing, so soft science. To me, "clear harm" is best if it's recognized by the person doing it, but that's not always the case. An alcoholic who doesn't have a bad liver and has never run someone over is still an alcoholic. Society...
  6. Lessifer

    Can non-smokers that vape potentially lead to real cigarettes?

    It was going to be a longer post, then the kid interrupted me and I lost my train of thought. I'm usually very careful to state that nicotine has not been shown to develop a chemical dependence, absent tobacco, when this topic comes up for this very reason. People can develop a dependency on...
  7. Lessifer

    Can non-smokers that vape potentially lead to real cigarettes?

    I have no idea about the quitters flu, but the rest of it, habits. People talk about addiction but rarely do people understand that there are distinctions between physical dependence, psychological dependence, habit, and enjoyment. Sometimes it's not even clear what someone is experiencing at...
  8. Lessifer

    New studies find carcinogens in vg and pg at high temps, even in tootle puffers

    I guarantee that if you vape the way you want to, you'll be happier.
  9. Lessifer

    Can non-smokers that vape potentially lead to real cigarettes?

    There is a world of difference between a former/current smoker, and someone who has never smoked cigarettes. There is plenty of research showing that tobacco is addictive. There is mounting evidence that nicotine, absent tobacco, does not lead to physical dependence.
  10. Lessifer

    Can non-smokers that vape potentially lead to real cigarettes?

    That "equation" also doesn't account for possible benefits. So, samandmax, why do you feel you want to vape and/or smoke? What are you hoping to get out of it? I'm not being condescending, I genuinely want to know. If it is to ease some of your symptoms from ADHD or something else, avoiding...
  11. Lessifer

    Can non-smokers that vape potentially lead to real cigarettes?

    Eh, we understood what you meant. Not smoking or vaping is better than smoking or vaping, so if you don't have to add risk to your life, no matter how small it might be, why do it? I understand that argument, in general, but if people lived by that philosophy no one would ever start smoking to...
  12. Lessifer

    Can non-smokers that vape potentially lead to real cigarettes?

    That's actually exactly what it means. If not smoking is at 0 and smoking is at 100, then being at 5%or less would put you at slightly higher risk than breathing fresh air. Of course that 95% is an artificial estimate. If they were to actually calculate risk based on studies and occurrences of...
  13. Lessifer

    Can non-smokers that vape potentially lead to real cigarettes?

    There's a bit of a clearer picture now. If the OP is looking to vaping because he has mental health issues, and doesn't want to start smoking, which is a common form of self medication, it makes a lot more sense. In that case though, avoiding nicotine is probably counterproductive. Nicotine is...
  14. Lessifer

    New studies find carcinogens in vg and pg at high temps, even in tootle puffers

    Keep in mind that what is being discussed here is whether vaping is 99.9% safer than smoking or 95% safer, or 90% safer. By all means, do the tc coil test, to see what the comparison is. It is highly likely that if any of the compounds were present at high levels, you'd taste them. They could be...
  15. Lessifer

    Can non-smokers that vape potentially lead to real cigarettes?

    We do always seem to be up at the same time :) usually chasing each other through threads. I spent a few weeks debating whether or not to dive into cartos and tanks, and learning how to use the tools, and prime the cartos and whether I wanted pre-punched, or laser cut, or to punch my own...
  16. Lessifer

    A challenge to the membership

    I'm going to try to remember to run a bunch of searches tomorrow. Is it just me, or are they all Chinese?
  17. Lessifer

    Can non-smokers that vape potentially lead to real cigarettes?

    Oh man, I remember when I first heard about vaping and this place. A friend suggested I start with something like the volcano tank, I think, it was a carto tank on a really long 510 battery I believe. I looked into all those methods of filling, did the taryn spin, the condom, the wait and fill...
  18. Lessifer

    Deeming Regulations have been released!!!!

    I haven't been to a vape shop in years. I suppose it would depend on the shop and the clientele. When I did hang out in shops, it wasn't to blow cloudz, it was to chat with other vapers, and those other vapers ranged from ego/provari users to competition mech users.
  19. Lessifer

    Deeming Regulations have been released!!!!

    They must have all been using TC mods.
  20. Lessifer

    New studies find carcinogens in vg and pg at high temps, even in tootle puffers

    Also, exposure to H2O that has been heated to 100C or above can be hazardous.
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