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  1. Lessifer

    And now they're coming after drippers.......Monday morning junk science edition

    I know you get it, I was using your post as more a starting point. There is no concerted effort to get the real science out there.
  2. Lessifer

    And now they're coming after drippers.......Monday morning junk science edition

    I agree that what passes for reporting these days is seriously lacking in fact checking and balanced reporting, but that's across the board. I think we as individuals can influence those around us, and movements like that can spread, it's happened before. However, I think the industry needs to...
  3. Lessifer

    And now they're coming after drippers.......Monday morning junk science edition

    I'm not giving leeway. I'm pointing out that they DID find facts. This story has a peer reviewed survey and a peer reviewed study, and fits well among what the FDA and CDC have been saying. That's my point. Would I like the reporter to understand what we do? Absolutely. However, if you were...
  4. Lessifer

    And now they're coming after drippers.......Monday morning junk science edition

    Ok, good luck convincing anyone outside of the vaping community to believe that. You and I both know it's the truth. The problem is, no one, besides us, knows or cares who Conley or Farsalinos are. So you get FDA, CDC, Public Health vs random nutter that no one has heard of, telling you that...
  5. Lessifer

    And now they're coming after drippers.......Monday morning junk science edition

    This is what I was trying to talk about earlier in this thread, I don't believe it's fair to label something like this "fake news." Think about it from the reporter's perspective, a non-vaper. You have the FDA and CDC broadcasting their stance about vaping, and how it's the new threat to...
  6. Lessifer

    petition needs your signature

    I'm pretty sure that the state, and most of the people in the state, have the feast or famine mentality, or in this case drought or flood mentality. While it may have been prudent to perform maintenance, inspections, and repairs during the drought, getting the state(and the people) to fund those...
  7. Lessifer

    And now they're coming after drippers.......Monday morning junk science edition

    You realize that the paper you're referring to is using a 510 dripping atomizer, you know, the ones that are basically cartos with no filler, and running them up to 5v? It's just like running a ce4 at 5v and saying, "see, there's formaldehyde." Yes, it's there, because you're burning it, not...
  8. Lessifer

    Deeming Regulations have been released!!!!

    An interpretation that can change on the whim of the director, especially one that can be revoked at any time, just doesn't seem like a stable foundation for an industry. I think it would be better if there were clear standards.
  9. Lessifer

    Deeming Regulations have been released!!!!

    You're right, if the FDA took a wildly different interpretation of MRTP than they have in the past, it could be possible within the current regulations.
  10. Lessifer

    Deeming Regulations have been released!!!!

    They MAY always be considered a Tobacco Product, or maybe someday they'll have a classification that exempts them similar to the way NRT is exempted from the TCA, since it is part of a separate regulatory scheme. Not that I think we should go down the drug/drug device path, just pointing out...
  11. Lessifer

    Deeming Regulations have been released!!!!

    From everything I've read, substantial equivalence is not easy, and it doesn't allow for improvement. That's the point. Substantially EQUIVALENT, meaning only minor changes that do not effect the product or the experience of the product. It would make more sense if the TCA weren't written with...
  12. Lessifer

    Deeming Regulations have been released!!!!

    This is the kicker, and is most of the basis for wanting vaping removed from tobacco regulation. There are others, like insurance surcharges. Moving the predicate date would allow the industry to survive, somewhat, but it would still be stagnant. If the approval process can be redefined within...
  13. Lessifer

    And now they're coming after drippers.......Monday morning junk science edition

    I don't know if it's all that much different now than it was 20 years ago. My little one is just starting out, and her school seems to be teaching her critical thinking skills already, along with the basics of letters and numbers. It's not a regular public school though, so maybe that's it.
  14. Lessifer

    petition needs your signature

    I believe you can sign with just an email address. Sometimes people sign with a different email address, but they still weed it out as a duplicate, say if the name and location is the same, probably.
  15. Lessifer

    Deeming Regulations have been released!!!!

    A step in the right direction.
  16. Lessifer

    And now they're coming after drippers.......Monday morning junk science edition

    I don't place all the blame on education. This newest generation, their goal in life is to become internet famous. They place a higher priority on bottle flipping and making memes than having career aspirations. I'm not sure where the failure is, I'm sure there's more than one.
  17. Lessifer

    And now they're coming after drippers.......Monday morning junk science edition

    Information is at our fingertips, but in some ways that makes it harder. How many people will see the same story regurgitated by multiple news sources, and consider that verified truth? Unfortunately we can no longer trust that any news source has done something other than parrot what they found...
  18. Lessifer

    And now they're coming after drippers.......Monday morning junk science edition

    there's a necessary component, being able to filter that knowledge into useful information, that seems to be lacking. I have hope though: The new civics course in US schools: How to spot fake news
  19. Lessifer

    And now they're coming after drippers.......Monday morning junk science edition

    I live under the fantasy that as humans have access to more knowledge, that knowledge influences their behavior, while fully recognizing that it is a fantasy. Also, I think I made that line up, about the goalposts, at least I don't remember reading it anywhere. Glad you like it, feel free to...
  20. Lessifer

    Can't find the right build!

    That should work, ramp up will be fast with the 32g, it might be on the hot side though.
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