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    ASH responds to e-cig letter and PayPal abuse:

    Yep...you have nailed it!!8-o
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    EVENT ALERT - Court Hearing on E-Cigarettes [8/17] // Ruling Could Determine Fate of Controversial Nicotine Product

    Hey Big Jim, Banzhaf is an attorney...in my opinion he gives attorneys a bad name! PROFESSOR JOHN F. BANZHAF III Professor of Public Interest Law and Executive Director Action on Smoking and Health (ASH), America's First Antismoking Organization 2013 H Street, NW, Washington, DC 20006...
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    Inform Tobacco Smokers

    Hey hxj, All of what you have written is true and the primary reason the e-cig is popular. But what happens in places such as in Long Island where Spikey is fighting the good fight to not be dispatched to the smoking section to use the e-cig. Once we can't vape in places that smokers can not...
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    Merged old sticky threads (5)

    Evidently a computer glitch, not me of course....OK my whoops, an operator error did not finalize my order....so I tried it again. Low and behold I received an email with order #6914 and payment has been sent. Thank you for the speedy reply and your patience-Ruth Ann Pssst! Once you get the...
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    Inform Tobacco Smokers

    I agree but unfortunately with the current marketing strategies of some e-cig sellers the smoking population sees this as a stance against them via alliance with our anti-smoking enemies. The attraction of the e-cigs are the very reasons you stated above...paired with a kind of rebellious spirit...
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    Smoking Everywhere V. FDA Daily Docket Sheet Update--APPEAL's COURT ISSUES STAY

    Jeez...then there may be something else?:shock:
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    Inform Tobacco Smokers

    Oh...I know your not suggesting to walk up to smokers and say this but at the risk of being indelicate...your underlying belief that 90% of smokers want to quit is problematic for those of us who get stats thrown in our face on a regular basis. It's as if smoker's simply can't enjoy smoking just...
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    Inform Tobacco Smokers

    Hey Paise, thanks for articulating a concern near and dear to my heart. As a legal gaurdian I receive no monies to raise my ward because I'm blessed to not need it. Thus all my resources are given happily and freely. When I testified in court that I would be responsible for this child until he...
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    Inform Tobacco Smokers

    What does all this tobacco and smoking talk have to do with the e-cig? Well...we know what's coming around the bend...we've seen it all before. Many of us have been countering ASH, the FDA, and a myriad of others for years. We are a resource to help in avoiding pitfalls that obfuscated PR...
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    Smoking Everywhere V. FDA Daily Docket Sheet Update--APPEAL's COURT ISSUES STAY

    Hey Sun, I think they qualify the new information in the post you submitted. 1) ...... 2) Poisoning danger to children 3) FDA findings of chemicals in cartidges All of these things came to light after the original action. The ACS is doing the same thing in a case about petitions to fight the...
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    Merged old sticky threads (5)

    I tried to order some atomizers for the JS and the web-site says out of stock...will Janty be getting some in soon? Also I tried to place an order and haven't recieved an email in 30 minutes to confirm...what's up!8-o
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    ASH responds to e-cig letter and PayPal abuse:

    Well Kevin, now you have your blinders off and can see the real issue in the fight. These groups do not believe in harm reduction via smoking anything. It's quit or die. If there is no such thing as a safer cigarette...that would include the e-cigarette. I really hope that the e-cig will be the...
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    Smoking Everywhere V. FDA Daily Docket Sheet Update--APPEAL's COURT ISSUES STAY

    Did anyone notice on the Brief Amicus Curiae that a member of this forum who engaged in missives with the FDA and posted that conversation on this forum....was used as evidence to support the BAC action? See below (sorry it's lengthy): From: CDER DRUG INFO [mailtoRUGINFO@fda.hhs.gov] Sent...
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    Inform Tobacco Smokers

    Hey Paise, you go girl!!! For every interested party in stopping this type of nonsense there are about a thousand interested parties that do nothing. You were able to fight this nonsense because you were the natural parent. I am the legal gaurdian of a child and these groups allegations irritate...
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    Inform Tobacco Smokers

    ASH has successfully lobbied via the threat of harm...where no harm actually exists. We who use the e-cig must prove they are safe before we can use them. There is no way to prove the e-cig safe. This is the logic that ASH, and their ilk, uses. It matters not that e-cigs are "safer" ...to...
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    Good Info

    Unfortunately, Sar some of us on this forum have read the actual studies that serve as the source for many of the quotes referred to by my fellow bloggers. I can assure you that alot of these things have been disproved. Once a study is completed and published the spinners go to work on it and...
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    Inform Tobacco Smokers

    Hey Duckies, thanks for the reply, I get your point, I think. But...no one is asking for anyone to side with the tobacco route or a pro-smoking campaign. Not one single person from the smoking section has requested the e-cig users help in their lobby efforts. But loads of smokers are helping in...
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    Inform Tobacco Smokers

    TBob, I normally agree with most of your thoughts and logic...in this case I respectfully submit you may be way off the mark. If all of the suppliers/manufacturers/users of e-cigs are really concerned for the health benefit derived from using the product...who is the target audience? If...
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    a response from the state of Washington Attorney General's office I sent...

    Hey Nestran, it's the carts that have the fluff in the middle....:D OK bad joke. I think the person that responded to our forum member was unfamiliar with e-cig terminology but was accurate inspite of it. The FDA tested the carts as well as simulated vaping...
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    all over the fron page of the sac bee.

    Hey Renderwerks and to all...I confess to suffering the effects of an apparent brainfart because I didn't even see page TWO! Duh...Pardon my crudeness and my error in an analysis done on half an article before one got to the good stuff. Thank goodness we have checks and balances on one another...
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