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  1. Lessifer

    petition needs your signature

    I appear to have the ability to just post now, the text box just didn't appear before. Probably a caching issue.
  2. Lessifer

    petition needs your signature

    I appear to only be able to reply to posts, and not just post to the thread itself. I also noticed that the like options are faint, but if you mouse over them they brighten and have a tooltip. Lots of choices :)
  3. Lessifer

    petition needs your signature

    Now that's a spider I could live with ;) It's because I wasn't here to argue with, wasn't it? So there's the pmta extension, and who knows what will happen before then. However, from what I've gleaned from fb the registration deadline is still this month, and true to form, most vendors are...
  4. Lessifer

    petition needs your signature

    I "usually" only go on fb to keep up with family and friends. Though lately I keep getting sucked into political/social debates. I almost never go to the vaping pages anymore, but I saw a vendor blacklist post and I couldn't help myself.
  5. Lessifer

    petition needs your signature

    Thanks:wub: and I can feel the flogging building from FT as I type. I kept meaning to pop in, and then I'd think about what I'd say, and I'd try to put a positive spin on it, and then I'd just get dejected. I got into an argument on FB, about labels/names/flavors. I know people mean well...
  6. Lessifer

    petition needs your signature

    Oh yeah, and if you want to find me on FB go for the Les Leung account, Lessifer I just use for gaming on there mostly, that's why there's no posts. As for me, the Tiny Tyrant started 1st grade, work is doing good, I've got big projects I'm working on, so free time has been lacking. Hope...
  7. Lessifer

    petition needs your signature

    By the way, Steve is the one who found me on FB and told me to get back here and let you all know I was still alive.
  8. Lessifer

    petition needs your signature

    Hey everyone, I'm so sorry! I didn't mean to worry you all. It was rude of me to not at least keep up. I had to take a break from everything vape activism for awhile. I just kept getting angry, and feeling dejected. We've had some good turns, but we're still pretty much in the same boat we've...
  9. Lessifer

    petition needs your signature

    That's been one of the biggest problems all along. Everything is vague with the FDA and tobacco, and whenever anyone tries to get clarification, they point you back to the vague info they've released. So far I've seen a statement from the FDA, but I haven't seen an official "guidance" unless I...
  10. Lessifer

    petition needs your signature

    As David said, it appears to be just an extension of the deadlines for filing for existing products, anything after the original deeming date(2016) would still be considered a new product, and subject to PMTA.
  11. Lessifer

    petition needs your signature

    I'll send out an update through the petition soon, I'm just thinking about what I want to say. It's not victory, but I'm cautiously optimistic that it's a good sign.
  12. Lessifer

    Deeming Regulations have been released!!!!

    If you're talking about batteries + or batteries+ bulbs, they carry 18650's but nothing we'd want to use. I've checked.
  13. Lessifer

    Deeming Regulations have been released!!!!

    Was it marketed by any of the companies currently marketing it? If so, perhaps they could get an SE, if the product hasn't changed substantially, including packaging, etc. It wouldn't be a ban for the same reason as all other vaping products, not having any products that have gone through the...
  14. Lessifer

    Deeming Regulations have been released!!!!

    What I meant is, there's no need for them to single it out. Like any other e-liquid that contains nicotine, the regulations already apply, meaning that come November, 2018, No PMTA for concentrated nic means no nic available for sale.
  15. Lessifer

    Deeming Regulations have been released!!!!

    I'm no lawyer but it seems to me that this might be one area where a legal case could be made. The TCA and Deeming give lip service to the fact that the intention is not to ban, but to regulate and promote less harmful products. The issue, if you want to stay within the framework, is the...
  16. Lessifer

    petition needs your signature

    I think you can also copy and paste images directly from one page to another. I believe that's what I usually do, right click, copy image, paste. With the decision in the nicopure suit I think people are coming to the realization that the FDA is not going to be reasonable, no matter what...
  17. Lessifer

    Deeming Regulations have been released!!!!

    It is "reasonable" since the purpose of the TCA was to prevent new tobacco products from coming to market without FDA review and approval. If the approval process weren't so onerous and lopsided, I bet many wouldn't have an issue with it, I still would.
  18. Lessifer

    Deeming Regulations have been released!!!!

    I know you and I don't agree much, but I agree with you here. For me it's always been about either changing the FSPTCA, since it is horrible legislation that actively discourages the development and promotion of low risk tobacco products. Or Explicitly remove vaping from the purview of the...
  19. Lessifer

    Deeming Regulations have been released!!!!

    I can't say I'm surprised at all, and I don't know if there are grounds for appeal. The rules for how tobacco products are regulated were in the FSPTCA. All the deeming regulations did were to deem vapor products as tobacco products and to state that the FDA would apply the same regulations to...
  20. Lessifer

    petition needs your signature

    Sorry folks, I did go AWOL, nothing bad just busy with work and the kid and wife, and vaping stuff makes me grumpy lately. The Federal stuff, the California stuff. I'm trying not to be disheartened, and I take comfort in the knowledge that I, personally, will be fine, but it all just makes me so...
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